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This is pretty f#&%ing scary.

These Boogaloo asshats (look it up if you don't already know, they're psychos) are out there instigating violence and now apparently shooting people because they think it HELPS TRUMP. I've heard reports of other bad actor right-wing groups doing the same.

At this point, does Biden need to address this? Clearly it's not his fault but it's also clear Trump is trying to weaponize it against him.

 
Arrested at his home in Antioch, IL.


 


17-year-old arrested for murder and fleeing state after Kenosha shootings that left two dead


A 17-year-old Illinois resident has been arrested by police for first-degree murder after allegedly fatally shooting two Wisconsin protesters on Tuesday evening.

Kyle Rittenhouse of Antioch, Illinois, was charged in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and labelled as a "fugitive of justice", according to Lake County, Illinois Clerk of Courts public records first obtained by the Daily

Dot.

The Antioch Police Department made the arrest on Wednesday after the suspect allegedly fled Wisconsin for his home state following the shooting.

 
"(The suspect) fled the state of Wisconsin with the intent to avoid prosecution for that offence," according to the document.

He faces charges of "first degree intentional homicide".

Video footage from the event showed a gunman in the middle of the street brandishing a semi-automatic rifle before firing off the shots that hit multiple people. Eye witnesses then said the gunman was allowed to walk past police without getting arrested. In one video, protesters are heard shouting at police that he was the gunman as the officer drove by to attend to the victims.

As video footage circulated about the shooting, social media users identified the potential suspect as Rittenhouse. His Facebook page is no longer available to the public, but previous posts allegedly included Blue Lives Matter and pro-police statements. One image circulating of Rittenhouse showed the juvenile carrying a rifle similar to what was allegedly used during the shooting.

Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth confirmed to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel earlier on Wednesday that armed people have been patrolling the streets of Kenosha, Wisconsin, in response to the looting, burning, and other damage to buildings and cars in the area during the protests. He could not say if the gunman from Tuesday was among them.
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That bolded, man.

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I haven't seen that video. I hope it was a triage situation where there were only so many officers and they decided to tend to the victims rather than just letting this kid walk away.

It was just a matter of time before this happened with tensions being what they are and these armed nut job militias patrolling the streets.

 
Now we have Tucker Carlson justifying the guy killing protestors as "Maintaining Order" - great Tucker, let's encourage more psychos with assault weapons go shoot people at protests. 

 
This whole thing with the 17 year old is just an ugly mess. Yeah the kid is an absolute idiot and POS for putting himself in that position, but and this is a huge but, the first person he shot wasn't some innocent bystander. I've watched quite a few videos of the incident, and he was clearly an agitator himself, was chasing the kid, and threw something at him just before being shot. Then the kid stayed next to the victim and seemed to call somebody (maybe the police) before running from the mob. The next two people shot assualted the kid and one appeared to point a pistol at him. After that he got away and ran to the cop APCs with his hands up and walked by them. I'm guessing the cops didn't know who he was at the time, but it's insane that he was able to pass through after a shooting near by. I'm guessing the APCs are the same ones that rolled through and picked up the victim who was shot in the arm (who seems to be the one who had the pistol and apparently maybe a felon himself), so there's a plausible story why they didn't grab him.

This isn't clear cut murder, but it's definitely homicide or manslaughter of some kind. And a lot of s#!ttiness all around.

 
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ZRod said:
This whole thing with the 17 year old is just an ugly mess. Yeah the kid is an absolute idiot and POS for putting himself in that position, but and this is a huge but, the first person he shot wasn't some innocent bystander. I've watched quite a few videos of the incident, and he was clearly an agitator himself, was chasing the kid, and threw something at him just before being shot. Then the kid stayed next to the victim and seemed to call somebody (maybe the police) before running from the mob. The next two people shot assualted the kid and one appeared to point a pistol at him. After that he got away and ran to the cop APCs with his hands up and walked by them. I'm guessing the cops didn't know who he was at the time, but it's insane that he was able to pass through after a shooting near by. I'm guessing the APCs are the same ones that rolled through and picked up the victim who was shot in the arm (who seems to be the one who had the pistol and apparently maybe a felon himself), so there's a plausible story why they didn't grab him.

This isn't clear cut murder, but it's definitely homicide or manslaughter of some kind. And a lot of s#!ttiness all around.
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His first mistake was bringing a gun to a protest. 
 

After that, there is a chance it’s going to go south real fast. 
 

He clearly wasn’t there to support the peaceful protest against the police shooting. 

 
BigRedBuster said:
His first mistake was bringing a gun to a protest. 
 

After that, there is a chance it’s going to go south real fast. 
 

He clearly wasn’t there to support the peaceful protest against the police shooting. 
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Agreed, but it would seem that everything he did up until pulling the trigger was legal (unless there is something about transporting a weapon or something... Idk). And a reasonable cause could be argued for self defense from some of what I've seen.

 
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How is the main takeaway here that it's an INCREDIBLY BAD IDEA to have roving gangs of right-wing nutjobs open-carrying in cities with protests "helping" the police?

Can we take a step back and realize how closely that teeters towards crap seen in historically fascist governments?

 
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Agreed, but it would seem that everything he did up until pulling the trigger was legal (unless there is something about transporting a weapon or something... Did). And a reasonable cause could be argued for self defense from some of what I've seen.
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He was underage and It was against the law for him to have the firearm to begin with (from what I understand). 

 
FrantzHardySwag said:
He was underage and It was against the law for him to have the firearm to begin with (from what I understand). 
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Yeah I'm not sure on all the legalities of a minor and a fire arm I think it's state by state right? I know the NRA was really pushing to have minors be able to possess guns years ago.

 
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