Junior
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He's still not the OC for OSU. And we've seen how Nebraska's QBs developed over the last several years.
Tim Beck to Ohio State
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teachercd
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I am sure they make bad hires but if you are looking at the track record you would have to assume that most of the time Meyer knows what he is doing, right?
So if we work with that as our baseline it seems like Beck is a good hire, right?
I also thought that statistically NU put more more points and yards vs MSU than most teams.
gobiggergoredder
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Utah was in the WAC then.
I do think Urban is a good coach, but I don't think is this Guru that he has been made out to be. He puts himself in good situations (yes, he bailed on Florida) and has good leadership skills.
Urbans success is one of the reasons I'm excited about Riley.
Stumpy1
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It is being reported that he is going to be co-oc and QB coach for them. Is taking over for Tom Herman.
zoogs
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Beck is a good hire. Good recruiter, Texas connections, creative offensive guy, I'd say maybe questionable QBs coach, always one of the top workers on the NU staff. Langsdorf, Beck, Osborne, Callahan, etc, all have and will get the same kind of irrational criticism just because they are playcallers and that's our favorite armchair profession.
If we had hired a defensive guy maybe he'd be staying on here for continuity.
Although unfortunately, his one line that sticks out to me is "Who has a good relationship with the fans, anyway?" And NU's offense really faded (again) this year down the stretch.
Only to resurface in a completely different way in the bowl game. Who knows?
If we had hired a defensive guy maybe he'd be staying on here for continuity.
Although unfortunately, his one line that sticks out to me is "Who has a good relationship with the fans, anyway?" And NU's offense really faded (again) this year down the stretch.
Only to resurface in a completely different way in the bowl game. Who knows?
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husker B-rent
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Just saying. Guys good, sure, but best in the country?
Gary Patterson says hello!
The best coaches in the country don't need 5 star talent across the board to be "the best coach in the country"!
Junior
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If he's not calling the plays, which will likely be done by Warriner, he's not the OC. He's a glorified position coach, coaching a position that he never did very well with at Nebraska.
Stumpy1
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Patterson is good no doubt but Urban is a little better.
Patterson is 132-45 in his career. All at TCU
Meyer is 141-26 in his career. Split between Utah, Florida and tOSU.
Patterson started at TCU in 2000 and Meyer started at Utah in 2001.
Stumpy1
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True2tRA
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I agree. Meyer knows what he's doing. Great coach. I bet he has more influence on that offense than Beck will.
I don't see how you can logically say Meyer is good so that somehow equals Beck is good, but whatever, we're gonna disagree. I don't like Beck.
I think we statistically did do better against MSU. If we look statistically at Becks offenses, then the guy is one of the best in the country. When you watched it, it didn't appear so at times. Like I said, very inconsistent.
I think Meyer will have plenty of influence and straighten out those inconsistencies. A better offensive line will and always would have benefited Tim Beck. He'll have that there. He never could get it straightened out here. I've always believed any Offensive Coordinator with a brain in his head would get the offensive line right before anything.
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And fortunately for Riley neither Eastern Washington nor Sacramento State appear on ours.
husker B-rent
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But the talent level is the difference!
Meyer started Utah in 2003 and left in 2004. The WAC. And the Utes have largely held onto their success since.
Basically, record is not the whole story.