Toilet hose help!

Mierin

Mierin

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So, the toilet has always been a mystery to me and I've tried to keep it that way.

But for reasons I won't explain here I've had to learn about the water hose attachment thing and I had to take it off. Unfortunately, it's not wanting to screw back into the valve. Should it be difficult to screw it back in? If it is difficult, does that mean I should get a new hose? It just will not screw in there. I'll twist it several times and then pull up on it and it hasn't even gotten started.

I tried it with a flexible hose and it was fine so I know I'm understanding what I'm supposed to be doing. (The problem with the flexible hose is no matter which end I screw on first, it ends up as a coil and I want it to be straighter). Is there any reason I shouldn't use a flexible one? It works fine right now but I want the original straight hose to work. Maybe the problem is just that it's wet, but that seems like it'd always be a problem.

I have a feeling half of this is going to wind up in out of context quotes.

 
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Toilet plumbing? You are a woman of many talents, Moiraine.
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Yeah, use the flexible one. They work better than those rigid steel ones. You can buy various lengths of flexible hoses, so you wont have a coil. I always get the flexible, braided steel ones, myself. They don't kink like the plastic ones.

 
NUance said:
Toilet plumbing? You are a woman of many talents, Moiraine.
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Yeah, use the flexible one. They work better than those rigid steel ones. You can buy various lengths of flexible hoses, so you wont have a coil. I always get the flexible, braided steel ones, myself. They don't kink like the plastic ones.
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Already, thanks much.

 
Are you using a hose that has swivels on both ends, thus the hose don't have to turn as you get the threading started?

 
http://www.vintagetub.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/R/M/RMN371SSP.jpg

To be sure we are talking about the same thing, here is an image of the water line hose I am speaking of.

Is this what you are working with?

Moirane, if you are using the solid line that was originally on there, you might only have one side the has a swivel? If that is the case, put the solid end on first, turning the line as you tighten, then once tight, hook your other end up.

I don't think they would have a water line that has no swivel on both ends, but it also could be corroded?

 
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TAKODA said:
http://www.vintagetub.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/R/M/RMN371SSP.jpg

To be sure we are talking about the same thing, here is an image of the water line hose I am speaking of.

Is this what you are working with?

Moirane, if you are using the solid line that was originally on there, you might only have one side the has a swivel? If that is the case, put the solid end on first, turning the line as you tighten, then once tight, hook your other end up.

I don't think they would have a water line that has no swivel on both ends, but it also could be corroded?
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Yes that's it. The flexible hose is the one that I couldn't seem to swivel but I will try again. The solid one was fine I just could not screw it to the water line in the wall. But the flexible one screws into it fine.

 
Well, the only thing I can think of is this: there are compression fittings in the ends of these lines. You have to be perfectly straight for it to thread properly. Let me ask the following questions?

1. Does it appear whatever line you want to use is long enough to reach both the toilet and the waterline outlet coming from the wall?

2. Does it appear the both ends of the line you want to use has the same size ends?

3. As you will notice on the image I had here, one end is bigger, which would most likely connect to the bottom of your toilet. Then the smaller end to your hook up!

For sh*ts and giggles, if the ends are the same, reverse the line and just see if they tighten "by hand"! Don't tork them on until you know the thread is threading properly, as you do not want to strip your threads.

Let me know how it works out for you.

Good luck!

 
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Well, the only thing I can think of is this: there are compression fittings in the ends of these lines. You have to be perfectly straight for it to thread properly. Let me ask the following questions?

1. Does it appear whatever line you want to use is long enough to reach both the toilet and the waterline outlet coming from the wall?

2. Does it appear the both ends of the line you want to use has the same size ends?

3. As you will notice on the image I had here, one end is bigger, which would most likely connect to the bottom of your toilet. Then the smaller end to your hook up!

For sh*ts and giggles, if the ends are the same, reverse the line and just see if they tighten "by hand"! Don't tork them on until you know the threadi is threading properly, as you do not want to strip your threads.

Let me know how it works out for you.

Good luck!
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I'm actually reconnecting a hose that I took off, so I'm doing all of that right. It just doesn't want to screw back on. Whereas the flexible hose is super easy to put on.

 
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TAKODA said:
Well, the only thing I can think of is this: there are compression fittings in the ends of these lines. You have to be perfectly straight for it to thread properly. Let me ask the following questions?

1. Does it appear whatever line you want to use is long enough to reach both the toilet and the waterline outlet coming from the wall?

2. Does it appear the both ends of the line you want to use has the same size ends?

3. As you will notice on the image I had here, one end is bigger, which would most likely connect to the bottom of your toilet. Then the smaller end to your hook up!

For sh*ts and giggles, if the ends are the same, reverse the line and just see if they tighten "by hand"! Don't tork them on until you know the threadi is threading properly, as you do not want to strip your threads.

Let me know how it works out for you.

Good luck!
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The compression fitting could be causing the problem. Good point. Maybe it's askew?

Regardless, NUance's advice to use a longer, braided line is spot on. Don't worry if it coils, the braids on the outside of the hose will keep it sturdy. That's your best bet, and the easiest fix, Moiraine.

Moiraine said:
I'm actually reconnecting a hose that I took off, so I'm doing all of that right. It just doesn't want to screw back on. Whereas the flexible hose is super easy to put on.
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Then use the flex hose. Don't complicate your life. It'll work just fine.

 
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Make sure the rubber gaskets in the fittings are all the way to the back of the fitting (closest to the hose as they can be) and flush against it (parallel to the backwall of the fitting). You would think they would just move out of the way but you would be surprised. When you go to thread the fitting do it as slowly as you can until it actually bites, sometimes if you go too fast the threads will just ride over each other and never engage because of the thread style used for plumbing.

When all else fails get your man to do it when he shows up.

 
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