VectorVictor

[Thanks_Tom RR]

Okay, so here are some screenshots which include comments from @VectorVictor, associated with the StPaul situation, which I think should go under mod review. I PM'ed Vector to request that he leave comments about the porn addiction thread in the thread itself and that this situation is under mod review.

The first is a conversation between Vector and StPaul on StPaul's update directed at the porn addiction thread. Comments from Vector seem just as flaming or bullying as ones from StPaul.



The second is a status update from Vector regarding the porn addiction thread.

 

[Thanks_Tom RR]

Thanks @Enhance for following up with this. Good work!  :thumbs

 

[Enhance]

I went ahead and issued a suspension to Vector for that comment. Going after someone’s sexual orientation should be heavily discouraged, plus it’s his third warning in less than one year. 

 

[Mavric]

He sent the following email:

Two points:

One—I wasn’t made aware of any earlier issue or problem. I received one warning this year (just now), and one last year. Where/when was the third, because if there was something, no one bothered to tell me about this third issue. 

Two—What I posted in no way made fun of his sexual orientation. Instead it was critical of saying there is such a thing as “Porn Addiction”, because there isn’t. This is a political attack being disguised as a mod action. 

My reply:

You received a warning on 11/9/17 and another warning on 4/25/18.  With this one that's three in the past 8 months.

That's not what your post said.  There was nothing referencing sexual orientation until you brought it up.  To try to claim otherwise is disingenuous.

 

[Enhance]

How can he honestly suggest he didn't go after sexual orientation when he said (and I'm paraphrasing) that he's 'pretty sure [BigRedN's] Tinder account says he's open to men?'

:blink:

 

[Mavric]

His response:

What did I get a warning on 4/25 for? The only two I was aware of/was told about was last year and now. 

And I never mentioned anything about the poster’s sexual orientation. I did question the sexual orientation of the religious person that created the video via the Tinder reference, but *not* the OP. I did, however, question the validity of “Porn Addiction” via the separate Toxic Masculinity post, and that’s when I started getting pinged on this. 

Mine:

Eh ... your post was ambiguous at best.  StPaulHusker's post says to "take it up with the pastor that made the OP" to which you replied "I think his Tinder profile suggested he's open to men".  That says you were referring to the person making the OP.  Perhaps that's not what you intended but that's what it says.

At any rate, both you and StPaulHusker were mocking what someone posted.  That's not needed.  

As for the other warning, you get a notification when you receive one and they are view-able on your profile.  You might not remember getting it but it's there to see.  I gave you the link to look at them.

 

[Thanks_Tom RR]

Yeah, the backpedaling is ridiculous.

Vector asks about using xHamster videos. StPaul replies for Vector to talk the the "pastor that made the OP" (BigRedN). Vector responded "sure thing" (which implies that he understands that he should direct comments to BigRedN) then says he will message him (BigRedN) on Tinder as his profile "suggested he's open to men".

It is clear these comments were directed about BigRedN as he was the only person discussed (the "pastor that made the OP"). Never once did either mention a person from one of the videos posted in that thread or anyone else for that matter.

 

[Mavric]

More emails:

If you can, Check my mail in the board—I was not made aware and I do not believe I received info on the April offense. And when I click through the link, I can’t see the info as the site says the post is no longer available. So I still have zero idea what I got in trouble for back in April, and I don’t believe it was communicated to me until today. 

As for the current post, I understand where you’re coming from now. No, my intent wasn’t to infer the OP was into men, and I have zero Fs to give about sexual orientation of posters...my problem is with the stances of (typically hypocritical) religious or political figures, especially when they’re making up addictions. I’ll endeavor to be more clear and avoid ambiguity in these situations going forward. 

Thanks for communicating with me about this and clearing things up on the current offending post, and I guess I’ll see you after time served.

Your warning in April was for a post that started out "Oh Jesus T***y F*****g Christ, not this derp and stupidity again."  It has been moved to the Offending Posts thread in the Woodshed.  If you have not logged in to access the Woodshed, you may not be able to see that post anymore.

 

[Enhance]

Thanks for all the follow ups with VectorVictor, Mav.

As a side note, I don't buy his defense of being unintentionally ambiguous. It doesn't add up based on the literal context of what he said.

 

[Enhance]

Update.

Vector posted in a P&R thread that Ric Flair needed to seek psychiatric help. Maybe I'm just in good spirits with football being so near, but I only issued him an informal and verbal warning.

However, he's had a rocky year. That would've been his fourth warning in less 300 days. I told him the next time this happens we will have no choice but to issue a long term suspension or a ban.

 

[Mavric]

Yeah, I think the way you did it works fine but I also agree with your last paragraph.

I think I believe him that his last suspension was in some part due to a misunderstanding but this at least evens that out.  

Kind of a short leash going forward, IMO.