Week 7 Preview: Indiana

[Hoosker]

I guess I just don't think he has this ulterior motive to double down on the lack of talent in order to boost up the coaching staff later on if we have a good year.

I suppose I just take his comments as his genuine thoughts on the team and the staff. Perhaps I'm too naive in that regard.

Like I said, if it was just this one comment, it would be nothing. But he's been pretty systematic about this for the last year-and-a-half. Coming off winning at least 9 games for seven straight years and firing coaches for not winning more (amongst other things), he promptly announced - specifically - that he thought last year's team had the talent of a 7-9 win team. And that was against basically the exact same schedule that we'd won 9 games the previous year - and only 2 of those games were within 10 points. Now, there is plenty more that goes into winning game other than talent but talent is a large part of it. And he's circled back to the "lack of talent" argument several times since.

And - by the way - we had more NFL draft picks in a single year last year than we had since 2011. Not to mention the roster talent showing the same advantage over almost every team last year just like this year.

I get what you're saying now. I guess I just don't see it the same way.

Thanks for explaining it to me.

 

[teachercd]

Indiana is a tough out in Bloomington. They frankly should have beaten both Michigan and Ohio State at home last year. Although it's a different team this year and will not be an intimidating environment, they tend to play well at home. This is also a much improved football team. This team is not the Indiana that many casual fans think of. This team has gotten much better under Kevin Wilson. As far as losing to Wake Forest, they almost put up 700 yards of total offense but were doomed by 5 INT's. They should be a 4-1 football team and should demand our full attention.

In the last 10 years they have one 7 games once and 6 games once. The other 8 years they have been under 6 wins. They have 44 wins in the last 10 years.

Purdue has 48 wins (one of those at the expense of Nebraska)

This is not a "trap" game because Indiana is good...

Did you get raped in Lafayette that day? You have an awful lot of angst built up for such a totally irrelevant, meaningless afternoon.

Meaningless to whom?

Was the MSU win that same season meaningful?

Anywho...why are we making out Indiana to be some good team?

 

[Count 'Bility]

Indiana is a tough out in Bloomington. They frankly should have beaten both Michigan and Ohio State at home last year. Although it's a different team this year and will not be an intimidating environment, they tend to play well at home. This is also a much improved football team. This team is not the Indiana that many casual fans think of. This team has gotten much better under Kevin Wilson. As far as losing to Wake Forest, they almost put up 700 yards of total offense but were doomed by 5 INT's. They should be a 4-1 football team and should demand our full attention.

In the last 10 years they have one 7 games once and 6 games once. The other 8 years they have been under 6 wins. They have 44 wins in the last 10 years.
Purdue has 48 wins (one of those at the expense of Nebraska)

This is not a "trap" game because Indiana is good...

Did you get raped in Lafayette that day? You have an awful lot of angst built up for such a totally irrelevant, meaningless afternoon.

Meaningless to whom?
Was the MSU win that same season meaningful?

Anywho...why are we making out Indiana to be some good team?

you just seem to always have some smartass comment about our loss to purdue last year. Like its some overwriting narrative of significance. Which it isnt. We had a bad day. Didnt give a sh#t. And lost badly to a bad team. Obviously that loss doesnt repreent anything.
As far as iniana goes. I dont know. I expect it to go bout like NW and Illinois. Ypu just watch how the goalposts move tho. Right now folks are propping up indiana in order to justify their own pessimism for our team. But it wont be consistent. The second we win by 2-3 scores the narrative will change. " but its just indiana" theyll say.

 

[teachercd]

Indiana is a tough out in Bloomington. They frankly should have beaten both Michigan and Ohio State at home last year. Although it's a different team this year and will not be an intimidating environment, they tend to play well at home. This is also a much improved football team. This team is not the Indiana that many casual fans think of. This team has gotten much better under Kevin Wilson. As far as losing to Wake Forest, they almost put up 700 yards of total offense but were doomed by 5 INT's. They should be a 4-1 football team and should demand our full attention.

In the last 10 years they have one 7 games once and 6 games once. The other 8 years they have been under 6 wins. They have 44 wins in the last 10 years.
Purdue has 48 wins (one of those at the expense of Nebraska)

This is not a "trap" game because Indiana is good...

Did you get raped in Lafayette that day? You have an awful lot of angst built up for such a totally irrelevant, meaningless afternoon.

Meaningless to whom?
Was the MSU win that same season meaningful?

Anywho...why are we making out Indiana to be some good team?

you just seem to always have some smartass comment about our loss to purdue last year. Like its some overwriting narrative of significance. Which it isnt. We had a bad day. Didnt give a sh#t. And lost badly to a bad team. Obviously that loss doesnt repreent anything. As far as iniana goes. I dont know. I expect it to go bout like NW and Illinois. Ypu just watch how the goalposts move tho. Right now folks are propping up indiana in order to justify their own pessimism for our team. But it wont be consistent. The second we win by 2-3 scores the narrative will change. " but its just indiana" theyll say.

The Purdue loss was horrid

If they don't beat Indiana by 14 or more it will be bad. Period. I think it will be like NW and Illinois too.

 

[BIG ERN]

From betting frequently, anytime a money line comes down that far usually is a bad sign, BUT also when a game seems "like a for sure upset" it usually never happens

 

[seaofred92]

Yeah, Sam still on the talent drum.

Indiana has one four-star on the team and he's out indefinitely with an injury. And Indiana is in the bottom 15 of the Power 5 in roster talent. But do what ya gotta do....

https://twitter.com/swmckewonOWH/status/786379039560785920

So the question for Sam is does he not think Riley and Co can't coach up their players to the same degree? I also don't get how someone who reports on recruiting can downplay the past recruiting of NU so much.

I don't understand.

He said the talent matchup is decent. Is this not true?

He said we have the edge. Is this not true?

Are you guys saying we have a much greater talent edge than Sam is implying?

I don't doubt we have more talent, but I'd argue that the talent gap between Nebraska and say Ohio State is larger than Nebraska and Indiana (at this point anyway)

Yes.

http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite

Injuries can screw with those numbers, but as we've heard forever, every team has injuries, so we just gotta overcome them.

responding to this but creating a new thread so as to not taint this one.

How did our discussion taint this one?

What is the proper criteria for this thread?

I wasn't trying to say that your discussion tainted this thread- if you read the thread I created "247 Roster Rating Discussion" I wanted to talk about a different point using the same link and didn't want to taint this thread with my response that is off topic. Sorry for the confusion

 

[Joe_5700]

Indiana is a tough out in Bloomington. They frankly should have beaten both Michigan and Ohio State at home last year. Although it's a different team this year and will not be an intimidating environment, they tend to play well at home. This is also a much improved football team. This team is not the Indiana that many casual fans think of. This team has gotten much better under Kevin Wilson. As far as losing to Wake Forest, they almost put up 700 yards of total offense but were doomed by 5 INT's. They should be a 4-1 football team and should demand our full attention.

In the last 10 years they have one 7 games once and 6 games once. The other 8 years they have been under 6 wins. They have 44 wins in the last 10 years.
Purdue has 48 wins (one of those at the expense of Nebraska)

This is not a "trap" game because Indiana is good...

Did you get raped in Lafayette that day? You have an awful lot of angst built up for such a totally irrelevant, meaningless afternoon.

Meaningless to whom?
Was the MSU win that same season meaningful?

Anywho...why are we making out Indiana to be some good team?

you just seem to always have some smartass comment about our loss to purdue last year. Like its some overwriting narrative of significance. Which it isnt. We had a bad day. Didnt give a sh#t. And lost badly to a bad team. Obviously that loss doesnt repreent anything.As far as iniana goes. I dont know. I expect it to go bout like NW and Illinois. Ypu just watch how the goalposts move tho. Right now folks are propping up indiana in order to justify their own pessimism for our team. But it wont be consistent. The second we win by 2-3 scores the narrative will change. " but its just indiana" theyll say.

The Purdue loss was horrid

If they don't beat Indiana by 14 or more it will be bad. Period. I think it will be like NW and Illinois too.

Agree, Don't agree. What?

 

[teachercd]

Indiana is a tough out in Bloomington. They frankly should have beaten both Michigan and Ohio State at home last year. Although it's a different team this year and will not be an intimidating environment, they tend to play well at home. This is also a much improved football team. This team is not the Indiana that many casual fans think of. This team has gotten much better under Kevin Wilson. As far as losing to Wake Forest, they almost put up 700 yards of total offense but were doomed by 5 INT's. They should be a 4-1 football team and should demand our full attention.

In the last 10 years they have one 7 games once and 6 games once. The other 8 years they have been under 6 wins. They have 44 wins in the last 10 years.
Purdue has 48 wins (one of those at the expense of Nebraska)

This is not a "trap" game because Indiana is good...

Did you get raped in Lafayette that day? You have an awful lot of angst built up for such a totally irrelevant, meaningless afternoon.

Meaningless to whom?
Was the MSU win that same season meaningful?

Anywho...why are we making out Indiana to be some good team?

you just seem to always have some smartass comment about our loss to purdue last year. Like its some overwriting narrative of significance. Which it isnt. We had a bad day. Didnt give a sh#t. And lost badly to a bad team. Obviously that loss doesnt repreent anything.As far as iniana goes. I dont know. I expect it to go bout like NW and Illinois. Ypu just watch how the goalposts move tho. Right now folks are propping up indiana in order to justify their own pessimism for our team. But it wont be consistent. The second we win by 2-3 scores the narrative will change. " but its just indiana" theyll say.

The Purdue loss was horrid

If they don't beat Indiana by 14 or more it will be bad. Period. I think it will be like NW and Illinois too.

Agree, Don't agree. What?

Indiana is a tough out in Bloomington. They frankly should have beaten both Michigan and Ohio State at home last year. Although it's a different team this year and will not be an intimidating environment, they tend to play well at home. This is also a much improved football team. This team is not the Indiana that many casual fans think of. This team has gotten much better under Kevin Wilson. As far as losing to Wake Forest, they almost put up 700 yards of total offense but were doomed by 5 INT's. They should be a 4-1 football team and should demand our full attention.

In the last 10 years they have one 7 games once and 6 games once. The other 8 years they have been under 6 wins. They have 44 wins in the last 10 years.
Purdue has 48 wins (one of those at the expense of Nebraska)

This is not a "trap" game because Indiana is good...

Did you get raped in Lafayette that day? You have an awful lot of angst built up for such a totally irrelevant, meaningless afternoon.

Meaningless to whom?
Was the MSU win that same season meaningful?

Anywho...why are we making out Indiana to be some good team?

you just seem to always have some smartass comment about our loss to purdue last year. Like its some overwriting narrative of significance. Which it isnt. We had a bad day. Didnt give a sh#t. And lost badly to a bad team. Obviously that loss doesnt repreent anything.
As far as iniana goes. I dont know. I expect it to go bout like NW and Illinois. Ypu just watch how the goalposts move tho. Right now folks are propping up indiana in order to justify their own pessimism for our team. But it wont be consistent. The second we win by 2-3 scores the narrative will change. " but its just indiana" theyll say.

The more I think about it...Riley has never really lost a game