What did we learn: Ohio State

krc1995 said:
So is Frost not culpable at all?  I think you are overexaggerating my point that I'm not to the point of trusting Frosts' late game decision making and THAT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T THINK HE'S A GOOD COACH.  He doesn't seem to have any consistency with his play calling in these situations and this is why I don't necessarily trust his ability to do the right thing.  In the Colorado game, he needed to eat clock but went uptempo.  Can't exactly remember the Troy game, but it was the opposite.  Northwestern was a coaching  brain fart.  Today I really can't fault, it just didn't work out, but at some point even with a random coin flop, you need to do better than 0-4. 
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I think you’re misunderstanding the random part of random coin flip.  I understand that in hindsight  his decisions can be criticized,  but, imo, he had method and justification for calling them exactly as he did.  Freak meltdowns by the inferior team left him on the wrong side of the coin flip each time

 
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Psychologically this team has come so far.  Could have folded a long time ago.  The wins and losses are frustrating, but this team has done what all well coaches teams do. They continue to get better and better as the year goes along.   

Offense will be scary good.   

Defense shows flashes of being a capable B1G unit.

Special teams is just scary... by far the biggest disappointment

 
VectorVictor said:
I think we learned that Caleb doesn’t have the onside kick down like a scholarship player should. Wonder if he has anything to do next season, save for riding pine (or painted steel) if we’re picking up a kicker?  :dunno

No, Caleb isn’t the only problem with special teams. But he has been one of the most consistent problems all season. And after he was replaced, punting was substantially better. 

Also, in the interest of not being wholly negative, I learned that I started getting pissed again when my daughters’ sports conflict with gametime. Been a few years since I felt that...
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To be fair, surprise onside kicks aren't quite the same as a regular onside kick

 
StPaulHusker said:
To be even more fair, Caleb Lightbourn is a punter handling KO duties because the scholarship kicker isn’t good enough.
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Lightbourn was recruited to NU and given a scholarship due to his big leg. That big leg translates to punting and kicking kick offs. I still don’t see how it’s the coaches’ fault for counting on him to pull off a surprise onsides kick, especially if he was doing it successfully in practice. 

 
ColoradoHusk said:
Lightbourn was recruited to NU and given a scholarship due to his big leg. That big leg translates to punting and kicking kick offs. I still don’t see how it’s the coaches’ fault for counting on him to pull off a surprise onsides kick, especially if he was doing it successfully in practice. 
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Given what we have seen from him in games I think it is the coaches fault for counting on him to pull off a surprise onside kick in the game on the road. 

Look, I'm all for trying it, but at the same time Lightborne has had a really rough year and this type of play isn't exactly in his wheelhouse. Hindsight is always 20/20 so I'm not that broken up about it. Frost was doing what he thought he needed to do.

 
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ColoradoHusk said:
Lightbourn was recruited to NU and given a scholarship due to his big leg. That big leg translates to punting and kicking kick offs. I still don’t see how it’s the coaches’ fault for counting on him to pull off a surprise onsides kick, especially if he was doing it successfully in practice. 
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I understand that.  But if he was so proficient in KO’s he would have been doing it sooner.  That’s how bad Pickering must be.

And we’ve heard a ton about how great practices are this season.  We still have major breakdowns.  

 
StPaulHusker said:
I understand that.  But if he was so proficient in KO’s he would have been doing it sooner.  That’s how bad Pickering must be.

And we’ve heard a ton about how great practices are this season.  We still have major breakdowns.  
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Because Brown was better than him the previous 2 years. Yes, Pickering must not have a great leg. Yet another ST miss by Riley and staff. 

 
Nebfanatic said:
Given what we have seen from him in games I think it is the coaches fault for counting on him to pull off a surprise onside kick in the game on the road. 
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Not if he was pulling it off in practices before being asked to do it in games. It was a risk, the player didn’t pull it off. I don’t get the hand-ringing over the call and all the blame on the coaches. 

 
ColoradoHusk said:
Not if he was pulling it off in practices before being asked to do it in games. It was a risk, the player didn’t pull it off. I don’t get the hand-ringing over the call and all the blame on the coaches. 
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Read my edit. I'm sure he was punting it to the right spots in practice too but when game time rolled around :dunno  Lightborne has shown to be so unreliable in games his major spot was taken by a walkon. I get your point and again I'm not that upset about the call, but you have to admit it was a bit questionable in hindsight

 
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Mavric said:
We realize that you expect Frost to get everything done yesterday and know the outcomes of events before they happen but unfortunately that isn't realistic, no matter how many times you try to act like it is.
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Been a while since you made some snarky comment towards me.  Get it out of your system?

Your post makes absolutely zero sense based on what I said.  

 
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