What did we learn: Ohio State
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Dogs In A Pile
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I learned I'm horrible at predicting the outcome of games which is why I don't gamble. And for being 2-7 I'm not really upset and have very good feeling things are going in the right direction pronto.
Even though it was a loss I was proud of the way the team played and fought to the end. Maybe not next year, but in the not too distant future, HCSF is going have them in the conf. champ. game on a fairly consistent basis I'm confident.
The offense is already lethal and as they continue to add skill players that fit the system and beef up the OL I only see it soaring higher.
Defense has taken huge strides since the first few games. Still a long way to go but it is so nice to see improvement as the year progresses. I still think we are down on talent in at several, if not most, positions and lack depth most everywhere, not just on D.
Whatever it takes they have to get the special teams fixed in the off season. Even playing just average ST play would look great right now. This will continue to be a source that contributes to losses until fixed. I'm sure HCSF will formulate a plan to fix this huge weak spot.
Even though it was a loss I was proud of the way the team played and fought to the end. Maybe not next year, but in the not too distant future, HCSF is going have them in the conf. champ. game on a fairly consistent basis I'm confident.
The offense is already lethal and as they continue to add skill players that fit the system and beef up the OL I only see it soaring higher.
Defense has taken huge strides since the first few games. Still a long way to go but it is so nice to see improvement as the year progresses. I still think we are down on talent in at several, if not most, positions and lack depth most everywhere, not just on D.
Whatever it takes they have to get the special teams fixed in the off season. Even playing just average ST play would look great right now. This will continue to be a source that contributes to losses until fixed. I'm sure HCSF will formulate a plan to fix this huge weak spot.
VectorVictor
Donor
I would suggest that he should have kicked it out of the end zone to remove all doubt re: the return and not draw a flag.
Plus this was the next kick right after the failed surprise onside that’s been making the rounds on the Internet now...so unless Frost was reacting to how quickly Caleb’s failed kick spread across the Internet...his kickoff wasn’t what the coach asked for. And not doing what the coach asked for is what got Caleb removed off punting duty in the first place.
Mavric
Yoda
If we had a kicker who was routinely kicking it out the back of the end zone, that would be great. But we don't.
Why would you doubt he was supposed to squib it? That's what most teams would do in that situation. And it wasn't the first kickoff after the failed onside kick. We also kicked off after a TD with 4:45 to go in the half. It landed on the 3, so that's why we couldn't assume he'd kick it deep into the end zone.
The squib kick was the correct call, especially with how our coverage teams have been this year. Lightbourn attempted exactly the type of kicks that Frost wanted. They just didn't work out as planned.
suh_fan93
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VectorVictor
Donor
I'm not saying squib wasn't the correct call, as you're trying to kill clock on the kickoff and make the kickoff difficult to return. But that requires the kick to stay inbound, which Caleb did not accomplish. And yes, I get that we don't have a kicker who can routinely kick it out of the back of the end zone. But we also have a kicker that can't do a squib kick without penalty, nor can they do an onside kick (albeit a surprise one).
I guess my point got off target--IMO, it goes back to asking why we have Caleb still on Special Teams? Do we not have another kicker that could do his job effectively somewhere in the roster? We already replaced Caleb once because he wasn't able to do as the coach asked--why would this time different?
Husker in WI
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I haven't found the touchback stats to comment on how well he's doing overall on kickoffs, but I would guess we do not have another kicker who can consistently kick off into the end zone which is our goal on most kickoffs. Maybe we have a better guy for an onside kick, but that would be a bit of a clue to our intentions if we send out a new kicker randomly. He's able to do what the coaches ask most of the time on kickoffs, and I don't find it hard to believe our other options can't - nobody else seems to have an exceptionally strong leg.
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VectorVictor
Donor
Fair enough. Here's hoping we're looking to recruit a couple of kickers/punters this go around then.
TAKODA
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What I learned:
Once upon a time, we were feared, respected, had a very high sense of pride with strong values. I can say we are surly improving day by day, week by week. Yes; we still need to weed out, a few issues here and there, and most of us recognize the process isn’t done yet, but one thing appears to be a solid bet, and that is the progress will continue.
Oh, wait, that was my perspective on some of our fans and thier comments to this weeks, and every other performance!
The team will be just fine
Once upon a time, we were feared, respected, had a very high sense of pride with strong values. I can say we are surly improving day by day, week by week. Yes; we still need to weed out, a few issues here and there, and most of us recognize the process isn’t done yet, but one thing appears to be a solid bet, and that is the progress will continue.
Oh, wait, that was my perspective on some of our fans and thier comments to this weeks, and every other performance!
The team will be just fine
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