What did we learn-Wyoming edition

[cm husker]

My problem with Riley's offense is that I think it's going to prove to be inconsistent. Lots of peaks and valleys depending on QB play. I personally believe it's why he is a career .500 coach. Not saying he isn't a great X and O guy because I think he is.

That's true of pretty much every offense. Even TO needed a top-notch QB to win the big games.
For all the talk about offensive style, playing good to great defense matters a great deal more, especially if we're talking about consistency.

Osborne had some of those peaks and valleys to be sure. He kinda struck out with at least three quarterbacks, Mike Grant, Mickey Joseph and Keithen McCant. None of those three quarterbacks really panned out at NU. Considering we had Turner Gill and Steve Taylor before those three and Tommie Frazier and Scott Frost after, that was a pretty serious valley.

Osborne did not have valleys, at least not in the sense the word is commonly used.

That - not the championships - is the most incredible aspect of his tenure.

You're proving BRV's point, which was that the beauty of Osborne's system is that it wasn't so heavily dependent on elite QB play. We had three QBs who were not "amazing" by NU fan standards.*** Yet, NU won a 3 of 5 conference championships between Steve Taylor leaving and Frazier emerging as a freshman. NU also went 39-9-1 those years.

In no world or era of CFB would that be considered a "valley" by an objective observer.

***Note, this is often absurd standard, considering that, for example, McCant was first team all-conference and offensive player of the year as a senior.

 

[BRV920]

The difference is that Osbornes valleys were 9 win seasons because his offense didn't need his QB to be a NFL caliber player to make it work.

 

[cm husker]

P.s. FYI, NU has a higher ranked QB out of high school starting than MSU.

....so?

So, the contention at one point was that MSU has been recruiting better at QB under Dantonio than Nebraska has.

90%+ of the teams in the B10 and SEC would probably start him if Armstrong was on their roster.

That's how good this kid is. And it's on this staff to utilize him properly.

 

[Landlord]

P.s. FYI, NU has a higher ranked QB out of high school starting than MSU.

....so?

So, the contention at one point was that MSU has been recruiting better at QB under Dantonio than Nebraska has.

90%+ of the teams in the B10 and SEC would probably start him if Armstrong was on their roster.

That's how good this kid is. And it's on this staff to utilize him properly.

I mean if you want to use recruiting rankings from high school to evaluate seniors in college, that's your prerogative, but I'm guessing the spirit of that contention is that MSU has had better quarterbacks than Nebraska has, which is... pretty hard to argue with. If we are recruiting better quarterbacks, we're doing a worse job of developing them, and that speaks to the previous staff as much as the current one.

 

[QMany]

If we are recruiting better quarterbacks, we're doing a worse job of developing them, and that speaks to the previous staff as much as the current one.

But the QB Whisperer!1!!!1

 

[The Dude]

I think this is going to be one of those things where Damon Benning called Langsdorf "the QB whisperer" that one time, and since it was mocked enough the narrative will be "everyone called Langsdorf the QB whisperer".

 

[hskrfan4life]

So in one post we dont wanna be like Michigan St who is consistently winning conference titles, and was in the playoffs last year, while in the next post we wanna emmulate Navy, who hasnt doen jack sh#t, but the run the option and occasionally beat more talented teams, so it's all good.

You'd be quite wrong about Navy doing "jack sh#t" recently. But that's ok. Many don't "get it" when it comes to talent versus production ratios.
Navy had to pull a QB out of the stands recently, and was still productive.

That telling in the "scheme" versus "talent" argument, as are teams like Baylor under Briles and Houston under Herman.

As for being like MSU, let me know when we rehire a defensive mind on par with Dantonio.

P.s. FYI, NU has a higher ranked QB out of high school starting than MSU.

He was on the depth chart.... Wasn't just some random person. It was cleared up.

 

[Count 'Bility]

So in one post we dont wanna be like Michigan St who is consistently winning conference titles, and was in the playoffs last year, while in the next post we wanna emmulate Navy, who hasnt doen jack sh#t, but the run the option and occasionally beat more talented teams, so it's all good.

You'd be quite wrong about Navy doing "jack sh#t" recently. But that's ok. Many don't "get it" when it comes to talent versus production ratios.

Navy had to pull a QB out of the stands recently, and was still productive.

That telling in the "scheme" versus "talent" argument, as are teams like Baylor under Briles and Houston under Herman.

As for being like MSU, let me know when we rehire a defensive mind on par with Dantonio.

P.s. FYI, NU has a higher ranked QB out of high school starting than MSU.

Until Navy is in the playoffs, which is our ultimate goal as a program, they have done jack sh#t. I know it's relative, but so quit comparing us to them.

 

[Count 'Bility]

So in one post we dont wanna be like Michigan St who is consistently winning conference titles, and was in the playoffs last year, while in the next post we wanna emmulate Navy, who hasnt doen jack sh#t, but the run the option and occasionally beat more talented teams, so it's all good.

You'd be quite wrong about Navy doing "jack sh#t" recently. But that's ok. Many don't "get it" when it comes to talent versus production ratios.

Navy had to pull a QB out of the stands recently, and was still productive.

That telling in the "scheme" versus "talent" argument, as are teams like Baylor under Briles and Houston under Herman.

As for being like MSU, let me know when we rehire a defensive mind on par with Dantonio.

P.s. FYI, NU has a higher ranked QB out of high school starting than MSU.

I think Dantonio has proven to be far more than just a defensive mind with his ability to build that thing from the ground up and be more consistent than any program in the Big ten.

Dantonio has more conference titles than Urban Meyer has.

 

[TAKODA]

Um,

MSU beat this Oregon team last year didn't they? Sooooooo, I wouldn't mind being like MSU.

 

[BRV920]

The point is that Navy does more with less. They accomplish this goal by having a identity on offense. Do you think it's a coincidence that the service academies run the offenses they run? None of them run a balanced offense. Why do you think that is?

 

[cm husker]

So in one post we dont wanna be like Michigan St who is consistently winning conference titles, and was in the playoffs last year, while in the next post we wanna emmulate Navy, who hasnt doen jack sh#t, but the run the option and occasionally beat more talented teams, so it's all good.

You'd be quite wrong about Navy doing "jack sh#t" recently. But that's ok. Many don't "get it" when it comes to talent versus production ratios.

Navy had to pull a QB out of the stands recently, and was still productive.

That telling in the "scheme" versus "talent" argument, as are teams like Baylor under Briles and Houston under Herman.

As for being like MSU, let me know when we rehire a defensive mind on par with Dantonio.

P.s. FYI, NU has a higher ranked QB out of high school starting than MSU.

Until Navy is in the playoffs, which is our ultimate goal as a program, they have done jack sh#t. I know it's relative, but so quit comparing us to them.

Cool, then I would expect to never hear what an accomplishment .500 at Oregon St was for Riley and how that indicates better things at NU.

 

[commando]

i learned that there are a lot of husker fans who are still tripping to the 90's.

 

[Hayseed]

I learned that if it's 1st and goal from the 4 and we don't want to just line up and say "We're Nebraska....We're coming at you!" ,then maybe we should schedule teams like maybe St. Mary's of Indiana. Then we can be like the girls in that old movie 'Where Angels Go, Trouble Follows" and call a finesse play that will trick the Sisters.

 

[fb30]

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