What did we learn

It said I could not edit.  I wanted to bring up Crouch's razzle dazzle successful play.  But that is not what won us games.  We know what won us games over and over again.  It was not razzle dazzle.  Having fun with a fumblerooskie is okay now and then.. but you know what I mean.  Now it's all we've got for a score?

 
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Red Five said:
According to PFF, Corcoran had a pass block grade of 0.0 (out of 100).  He allowed 3 sacks and 2 hurries.  A stationary garbage can would have been about as effective as he was.
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I'm not trying to defend the line.  And I could only see bits and pieces of the game as I was at my daughter's volleyball game.

But I do think there is an issue with the PFF data.  It has every single one of our OL giving up a "pressure opportunity" on 100% of pass blocking snaps. 

They were bad.  But I'm pretty sure they weren't THAT bad.

 
When we had about 8 seconds left in the first half on the 5, I don’t think we even needed a holder… I think Alvano could have headered that one in.

 
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Hartzog gets some pub but I'm still not that convinced that he's all that great of a CB.  He may make some big plays, but he seems to get burned a lot.


 
Red Five said:
According to PFF, Corcoran had a pass block grade of 0.0 (out of 100).  He allowed 3 sacks and 2 hurries.  A stationary garbage can would have been about as effective as he was.
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I mean ... this is (apparently) every pass Sims threw.  There doesn't seem to be a huge percentage of play where he was really pressured.  They are definitely there, but - to me - he appears to have adequate protection more often than not.


 
Mavric said:
Hartzog gets some pub but I'm still not that convinced that he's all that great of a CB.  He may make some big plays, but he seems to get burned a lot.
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The play was extremely frustrating. But I think it's also fair to say that most of the projections had Minnesota scoring more points than they did, and they only got into the end zone once.

It just gets focused on so much because it was the dagger play, right?

 
Undone said:
The play was extremely frustrating. But I think it's also fair to say that most of the projections had Minnesota scoring more points than they did, and they only got into the end zone once.

It just gets focused on so much because it was the dagger play, right?
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That was just the play there was video of.  And he could have played it well and they still scored.

But stopping flat-footed and staring into the backfield as the receiver runs by doesn't bode well for future outcomes.

 
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I mean ... this is (apparently) every pass Sims threw. 
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Not saying that the 0.0 is right, but this cut up doesn't include the sacks (3) or called passes that turned into QB scrambles due to being flushed (not sure how many there were, but somewhere in the 3 to 6 range?)

 
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Mavric said:
I mean ... this is (apparently) every pass Sims threw.  There doesn't seem to be a huge percentage of play where he was really pressured.  They are definitely there, but - to me - he appears to have adequate protection more often than not.
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I think the simple answer is this o line will not be up to anyone's standards on this board until the names corcoran, benhart, and piper are no longer on this team.  These guys are like 8 year starters now (sarcasm) yet none of them would start for another big ten team besides maybe rutgers. 

 
gossamorharpy said:
I think the simple answer is this o line will not be up to anyone's standards on this board until the names corcoran, benhart, and piper are no longer on this team.  These guys are like 8 year starters now (sarcasm) yet none of them would start for another big ten team besides maybe rutgers. 
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I look at it like this.

The offensive line didn't have a good game last night. But because of how well the defense played for the entire 4 quarters all in all, the offensive line did enough for us to win.

However, there isn't a whole lot of improvement being shown over last year. That's the frustrating part.

 
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