What is the future of the Republican Party?

Born N Bled Red said:
I don't think they are fighting the hearings to protect Trump. I think those of them that are the loudest are probably implicated. At what point do you draw a line between the Trump campaign and the Republican party? I think its hard to separate the two and most Republicans know that their a** is on the line too. 
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They are implicated because of their devotion to Trump and refusal to push back against anything he wants....to stay in power.  That pretty much falls in line with what I was describing.  Now, it's flowing through to the hearings.

 
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Obviously, the farce of the stolen election is the current GOP. 
 

It will be interesting to how far and for how long the party is going to go down this rabbit hole. 

And, how much damage are they willing to America over this fake issue. 
 


 
Born N Bled Red said:
I don't. The Republicans power is unity. They don't break rank, and they don't turn on eachother. They cling to that because it provides them power, which is all they want. They don't care who holds what office as long as it isn't a democrat and they vote the way they are supposed to. 

Dems on the other hand frequently throw each other under the bus. Manufacture and play into outrage against each other and perceived scandals. Dems have the power of forward thinking and forward action, which the populace wants- they don't have the unity and follow through to make anything happen. 

In congress we don't have anything other than obstructionists and dreamers as a result. Its pretty sad. It will only get worse unless we end gerrymandering, have open primaries and implement ranked choice voting.  
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Yes, I agree to a point  - for unscrupulous people like Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham, etc  - trump can denounce them, their dad (Cruz), call them names etc but the bottom line was retaining power. Therefore,  they brown nose the abuser and are dependent on him for their power.  My gut believes Pence has made a clean cut from Trump.  I was always disappointed in Pence when he didn't cut ties when the Access Hollywood tapes came out -  He did so I think out of loyalty to the party over loyalty to Trump and perhaps their promise that he'd be next in line (so that would be a power thing) - whatever the reason I think he should have stepped away from the vp nomination.  

If Pence still seeks Trump's approval after all that trump did to him, then I know he's become co-dependent on the abuser and an enabler.  I will have zero respect for him. 

I agree 100% with the bold

 
BigRedBuster said:
Somewhat agree.  This is what the Republican party HAS been.

However, that's not who they are now.  They are the party to support Trump....and only Trump.  Anyone who dares criticize Trump IS thrown under the bus and demonized to the point of being voted out of office.
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Verifiably not true

 
Archy1221 said:
So, what is it?
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Politicians who criticize or accuse Trump of something, are attacked by Trump and Republican leadership.  Now, if they change their tune, and start praising him again, then that attack goes away.  If it continues, then there is an attempt to get them voted out of office.  You're saying that isn't successful all the time......Yes, I know that.  That's the voters.  That doesn't mean the pressure isn't there to support Trump. And, not all candidates that weren't supported by Trump were critical of Trump and outspoken about it.  Nebraska governor's race is a prime example.  One just kissed Trump's a$$ more so that's who got the support from him.

 
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BigRedBuster said:
Politicians who criticize or accuse Trump of something, are attacked by Trump and Republican leadership.  Now, if they change their tune, and start praising him again, then that attack goes away.  If it continues, then there is an attempt to get them voted out of office.  You're saying that isn't successful all the time......Yes, I know that.  That's the voters.  That doesn't mean the pressure isn't there to support Trump. And, not all candidates that weren't supported by Trump were critical of Trump and outspoken about it.  Nebraska governor's race is a prime example.  One just kissed Trump's a$$ more so that's who got the support from him.
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Brian Kemp?  Nancy Mace? 

 
BigRedBuster said:
Politicians who criticize or accuse Trump of something, are attacked by Trump and Republican leadership.  Now, if they change their tune, and start praising him again, then that attack goes away.  If it continues, then there is an attempt to get them voted out of office.  You're saying that isn't successful all the time......Yes, I know that.  That's the voters.  That doesn't mean the pressure isn't there to support Trump. And, not all candidates that weren't supported by Trump were critical of Trump and outspoken about it.  Nebraska governor's race is a prime example.  One just kissed Trump's a$$ more so that's who got the support from him.
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Or Brad Raffensperger who you just posted about.   The guy Trump hates but who won his primary??

 
Archy1221 said:
Or Brad Raffensperger who you just posted about.   The guy Trump hates but who won his primary??
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Please list the Republican senators and representatives that spoke out against Trump for inciting an insurrection and attempting to overturn our democracy who still show loyalty to the republic over their own political futures and who have not ran  back to Trump's ample teats. 

That shouldn't take long.  When you're done with that let us know how those that showed a modicum of fealty to our democracy have done in their attempts for reelection.  The evidence of his treasonous attempts are overwhelming and yet the Republicans still support him.  Why would that be?   And nobody is going to buy "because the evidence is a hoax".

The GOP has had numerous opportunities to dump his a$$ on the waste heap of history but they just can't.  Power is more seductive to them than the preservation of our democracy.  

 
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