What's Behind the Staff Changes

NUinID said:
HANC said:
First, I am fairly excited to see a new DC. I have never been on board with Banker and Read needed to go, based on results or lack of.

To answer question: Shawn Eichorst is directly behind the staff changes. Eichorst future with Nebraska is based solely on the success of the football team. Whether for /against the coaching change, it was a hotly debated issue. When he brought in MR, many Nebraska fans and national media, were less than impressed.

If MR doesn't pan out, it will be completely on Eichorst and he is well aware that his job and legacy depends on this. He flat out said in interviews that our talent level needs to increase. Ironically, 3 of our least productive recruiters are gone. Eichorst is on the sideline and inside the player's box every game, more than any other A.D. I have ever seen (Maybe Pat Hayden). He acts like Jerry Jones used to with Dallas. I can't believe how much freedom he uses and abuses. He does it because he understands this is his legacy.

Now, MR is willing to listen and try, regardless of "Friendships". This is were the previous staff didn't respond. MR isn't too proud or egotistical to cut bait, admit a bad hire and try to rectify the situation. MR understands he has to win.

** All in all, I think the change is good, and regardless of who is behind those decisions, it is being done to win games and to save jobs. If this happens, we will all be happy !
Do you have some sort of inside info on this. I am sure SE was part of the process, but I doubt that he went to MR and said you have to fire Banker.
I have some inside info yes, but from people who associate with the athletic department and have with SE. He does things his way. Not saying it is bad...that is for everyone's own opinion.

I think he does have a big say. This is why Bo is no longer here. Bo wouldn't conform to some things SE wanted changed. MR is doing what he and his boss believe the program needs.

** There is no hiding the fact that SE takes a very active role, if people just watch and listen to his comments.

 
When Riley came to NU, he made clear to his staff that standards were higher. The work would be harder and some of the old habits wouldn’t do. Read’s special teams regressed — that firing wasn’t a total shock. But Banker? His old war horse? The guy who had improved the defense dramatically in 2016, at least until the last two games? I can’t imagine what their final handshake must have been like.
The situation begs a litany of questions:
Did we get Riley wrong? Or has Nebraska changed him? My gut says it’s a little of both. Last fall, I ran into someone very high on Nebraska’s food chain. We were making small talk, discussing a failed coaching staff in another city when he said the worst thing a coach can do is hire friends rather than the best people for the job. I found it ironic at that moment. He knew that was exactly what Riley did, right?

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/blogs/mad-chatter-by-dismissing-mark-banker-and-bruce-read-mike/article_787896a8-d869-11e6-8872-f7fba9e02700.html
I would guess it's mostly Nebraska has changed him. Otherwise he wouldn't have brought along a guy who was having a terrible time putting together a competent defense for several years before that. Or they really didn't realize that it wasn't *just* a lack of talent at Oregon State but that would mean they finally figured that out here as well.
I think Riley could come to Nebraska and do things the same way at Oregon State and succeed. Then I think 2 things have happened: 1) He underestimated the amount of pressure and scrutiny he would receive from the Nebraska fans and media, and 2) He realized that at a place like Nebraska, he has an opportunity to win like he has never done before, so he's going to do what it takes to win, even if it means firing 2 of his closest friends in coaching

EDIT: I will add that Eichorst has probably been talking to Riley about how things need to change in order to appease the fans

EDIT #2: I hadn't read Dirk's article before I made my post, but Dirk pretty much says the same thing I just did. I am sure that means people will blast my post.

 
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Not sure we'll definitively find out soon, but, either way, it's still a step in the right direction for Nebraska. This move shows that we're serious about returning to championship caliber football.

 
NUinID said:
HANC said:
First, I am fairly excited to see a new DC. I have never been on board with Banker and Read needed to go, based on results or lack of.

To answer question: Shawn Eichorst is directly behind the staff changes. Eichorst future with Nebraska is based solely on the success of the football team. Whether for /against the coaching change, it was a hotly debated issue. When he brought in MR, many Nebraska fans and national media, were less than impressed.

If MR doesn't pan out, it will be completely on Eichorst and he is well aware that his job and legacy depends on this. He flat out said in interviews that our talent level needs to increase. Ironically, 3 of our least productive recruiters are gone. Eichorst is on the sideline and inside the player's box every game, more than any other A.D. I have ever seen (Maybe Pat Hayden). He acts like Jerry Jones used to with Dallas. I can't believe how much freedom he uses and abuses. He does it because he understands this is his legacy.

Now, MR is willing to listen and try, regardless of "Friendships". This is were the previous staff didn't respond. MR isn't too proud or egotistical to cut bait, admit a bad hire and try to rectify the situation. MR understands he has to win.

** All in all, I think the change is good, and regardless of who is behind those decisions, it is being done to win games and to save jobs. If this happens, we will all be happy !
Do you have some sort of inside info on this. I am sure SE was part of the process, but I doubt that he went to MR and said you have to fire Banker.
I have some inside info yes, but from people who associate with the athletic department and have with SE. He does things his way. Not saying it is bad...that is for everyone's own opinion.

I think he does have a big say. This is why Bo is no longer here. Bo wouldn't conform to some things SE wanted changed. MR is doing what he and his boss believe the program needs.

** There is no hiding the fact that SE takes a very active role, if people just watch and listen to his comments.
I thought maybe I was being too much of a conspiracy theorist when Reed was fired. But Sipple directly asked Eichorst if he had a hand in firing Reed (don't remember exactly how it was worded). Eichorst's response was "That's not my role." Which is a great answer from a lawyer but definitely not a denial. My thinking at the time was "It might not be your role to fire him but you can sure indicate that's what you think should be done." Riley was obviously frustrated with Reed for a lot of the season but I don't think it's any stretch that Eichorst has been pushing Riley along.

 
I think we've possibly underestimated Riley's competitiveness. That's probably the part I'm most happy about this morning.

I'm happy that Mike wants the team to go all the way to the top.

 
I think we've possibly underestimated Riley's competitiveness. That's probably the part I'm most happy about this morning.

I'm happy that Mike wants the team to go all the way to the top.
Stop making me use all my +1s!
Yeah, I am impressed that Riley is willing to make these changes. But, firing the crappy coach is only half of the job. He needs to go out and hire a quality replacement.

 
Mavric said:
Reports are there was a lot of chatter about coaching changes at the AFCA convention. Word is there is a lot of pressure to win in 2017 and the thinking is the coaches we had weren't going to get it done.

My take is the pressure to make changes - at least to some extent - is coming from Eichorst. But my guess would be it's Devaney in Riley's ear that put it over the top. Coming from the NFL, Devaney would know what kind of schemes are really built to work and what things only work at Oregon State. And he would also know that you can't just sit around and hope things get better. If the results aren't there, you make a change.

And if that's the case the move to get Davaney on staff may be paying off in a big way.
The involvement of Devaney is what makes me think the new DC will have an NFL connection. Riley's last few hires have been out of left field, so it should be interesting where they go.
So my question is - Does the new DC have the right to hire all new D assistants or is that still a MR call?
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Could some of the other D assistants jobs be at risk? If so, who else on the D needs to go if anyone?

After the recruiting bust last week and ending the season the way we did, I was pretty bummed about next year. This to me is a ray of hope that the administration gets it that they need to pay for success. Let it start wt the DC.

 
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Not sure we'll definitively find out soon, but, either way, it's still a step in the right direction for Nebraska. This move shows that we're serious about returning to championship caliber football.
It's Les Miles isn't it! Wait, Scott Frost! No, it has to be Miles!!! Is it a relative of Sarrell, Lewis, or Darnay???

 
NUinID said:
HANC said:
First, I am fairly excited to see a new DC. I have never been on board with Banker and Read needed to go, based on results or lack of.

To answer question: Shawn Eichorst is directly behind the staff changes. Eichorst future with Nebraska is based solely on the success of the football team. Whether for /against the coaching change, it was a hotly debated issue. When he brought in MR, many Nebraska fans and national media, were less than impressed.

If MR doesn't pan out, it will be completely on Eichorst and he is well aware that his job and legacy depends on this. He flat out said in interviews that our talent level needs to increase. Ironically, 3 of our least productive recruiters are gone. Eichorst is on the sideline and inside the player's box every game, more than any other A.D. I have ever seen (Maybe Pat Hayden). He acts like Jerry Jones used to with Dallas. I can't believe how much freedom he uses and abuses. He does it because he understands this is his legacy.

Now, MR is willing to listen and try, regardless of "Friendships". This is were the previous staff didn't respond. MR isn't too proud or egotistical to cut bait, admit a bad hire and try to rectify the situation. MR understands he has to win.

** All in all, I think the change is good, and regardless of who is behind those decisions, it is being done to win games and to save jobs. If this happens, we will all be happy !
Do you have some sort of inside info on this. I am sure SE was part of the process, but I doubt that he went to MR and said you have to fire Banker.
I have some inside info yes, but from people who associate with the athletic department and have with SE. He does things his way. Not saying it is bad...that is for everyone's own opinion.

I think he does have a big say. This is why Bo is no longer here. Bo wouldn't conform to some things SE wanted changed. MR is doing what he and his boss believe the program needs.

** There is no hiding the fact that SE takes a very active role, if people just watch and listen to his comments.
BP is no longer at NU because Perlman and SE didn't want him here. It is a big difference to fire the HC and to flat out tell a HC how to run his staff and team. As I said I have no doubt that SE has had input into the situation, but I doubt he flat out came out and said you need to get rid of Banker now. Do I think SE discussed what he thought would help the program and he may have thought the DC position was a problem, probably.

I just don't think it was a you need to fire Banker now or else type of thing.

 
Its crazy that our DC gets fired and all the Bo-lievers come out of the woodwork. They constantly attack and b!^@h about the two people who are doing whatever it takes to make Nebraska relevant again. Go root for YSU you clowns!

 
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I think Riley like many of us thought that with better talent Banker would put together better defenses. But his defenses got exposed on numerous occasions against teams that it shouldn't have.

Facing the teams that we do in the west there is no reason to not have a top 15 defense. The offenses are that bad. I am extremely happy that Riley, Eichorst, or Devaney are not content and looking for improvement.

 
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NUinID said:
HANC said:
First, I am fairly excited to see a new DC. I have never been on board with Banker and Read needed to go, based on results or lack of.

To answer question: Shawn Eichorst is directly behind the staff changes. Eichorst future with Nebraska is based solely on the success of the football team. Whether for /against the coaching change, it was a hotly debated issue. When he brought in MR, many Nebraska fans and national media, were less than impressed.

If MR doesn't pan out, it will be completely on Eichorst and he is well aware that his job and legacy depends on this. He flat out said in interviews that our talent level needs to increase. Ironically, 3 of our least productive recruiters are gone. Eichorst is on the sideline and inside the player's box every game, more than any other A.D. I have ever seen (Maybe Pat Hayden). He acts like Jerry Jones used to with Dallas. I can't believe how much freedom he uses and abuses. He does it because he understands this is his legacy.

Now, MR is willing to listen and try, regardless of "Friendships". This is were the previous staff didn't respond. MR isn't too proud or egotistical to cut bait, admit a bad hire and try to rectify the situation. MR understands he has to win.

** All in all, I think the change is good, and regardless of who is behind those decisions, it is being done to win games and to save jobs. If this happens, we will all be happy !
Do you have some sort of inside info on this. I am sure SE was part of the process, but I doubt that he went to MR and said you have to fire Banker.
I have some inside info yes, but from people who associate with the athletic department and have with SE. He does things his way. Not saying it is bad...that is for everyone's own opinion.

I think he does have a big say. This is why Bo is no longer here. Bo wouldn't conform to some things SE wanted changed. MR is doing what he and his boss believe the program needs.

** There is no hiding the fact that SE takes a very active role, if people just watch and listen to his comments.
BP is no longer at NU because Perlman and SE didn't want him here. It is a big difference to fire the HC and to flat out tell a HC how to run his staff and team. As I said I have no doubt that SE has had input into the situation, but I doubt he flat out came out and said you need to get rid of Banker now. Do I think SE discussed what he thought would help the program and he may have thought the DC position was a problem, probably.

I just don't think it was a you need to fire Banker now or else type of thing.
I am not saying that SE said "Banker or You"..... put I am sure it was suggested that changes needed to take place and MR decided Banker was the guy.

 
Why would Eichorst pick on banker? Our defense was ranked 30th and our offense was ranked 90th? WITH A SENIOR QB. Why is riley getting so much credit for firing Banker? Cavanaugh still has a job and that is the teams BIGGEST WEAKNESS

 
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