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I didn’t know Gdowski was at VandyESPN article on the rise in freshman QBs.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/23396659/the-rise-true-freshman-qb
I didn’t know Gdowski was at VandyESPN article on the rise in freshman QBs.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/23396659/the-rise-true-freshman-qb
Didn't Gebbia set passing records in California? He had 5338 passing yards and 61 TD's (70% completion rate, 11 ypa) in his SR season in HS. I'm guessing not just anyone could put up those numbers either.Anyone can technically run the ball, but to what extent it is effective is a big difference in these two. I'm all for Gebbia proving me wrong and playing well - I just see Martinez as a better player. I know they are in different offenses in HS, but no way Gebbia could have put up the numbers AM did as a JR....1,462 rushing yards (8 ypc) in comparison to 293 rushing yards (3.8 ypc)
Yeah he put up some silly numbers throwing the ball. I was always confused why he didn't receive an in-state offerDidn't Gebbia set passing records in California? He had 5338 passing yards and 61 TD's (70% completion rate, 11 ypa) in his SR season in HS. I'm guessing not just anyone could put up those numbers either.
I don't know the answer, but a couple of things could be at play including 1) his interest to stay in the state and 2) the kinds of offenses operated at the bigger programs. Sometimes, a recruit will flat out tell some universities they're uninterested in playing there so they won't receive an official offer. It's also possible that someone like Cal or UCLA didn't see Tristan as a fit in their offense, and someone like USC probably had bigger fish to fry than TG.Yeah he put up some silly numbers throwing the ball. I was always confused why he didn't receive an in-state offer
He also committed pretty early and didn't keep recruiting, so that probably stopped a lot of schools from offering.I don't know the answer, but a couple of things could be at play including 1) his interest to stay in the state and 2) the kinds of offenses operated at the bigger programs. Sometimes, a recruit will flat out tell some universities they're uninterested in playing there so they won't receive an official offer. It's also possible that someone like Cal or UCLA didn't see Tristan as a fit in their offense, and someone like USC probably had bigger fish to fry than TG.
Gebbia is a gamer. Never discount a gamer.
I disagree. He tries hard, he studies well, and he has the better release when things go well. He's not a 'gamer'. He doesn't throw the ball well on the move, or when he can't get his feet set. Doesn't turn his hips well. Obviously not a playmaker at running the ball, though I still say he handles that part well enough.
Its never been about one passing the ball better vs running the ball better. Martinez is the more natural player, Gebbia is stiffer but more polished. Either will get the job done.
Are you basing this off of two spring games or the one this year? One could say Martinez can't hit the deep ball then as we never saw one completed during the game from him. All I know is Martinez is more suited for this offense but Gebbia can run it just a smoothly. The gameplan would be a little different but right now it is neck and neck from what I am hearing. If all things are equal they will go with Martinez, due to him having the more natural fit for this offense.I disagree. He tries hard, he studies well, and he has the better release when things go well. He's not a 'gamer'. He doesn't throw the ball well on the move, or when he can't get his feet set. Doesn't turn his hips well. Obviously not a playmaker at running the ball, though I still say he handles that part well enough.
Its never been about one passing the ball better vs running the ball better. Martinez is the more natural player, Gebbia is stiffer but more polished. Either will get the job done.
I never understood why people say “don’t play a true freshman because they will be needed 4 years later”. If that coach is any good, he will be able to recruit players who can play just as well 4 years from now.I haven't read all 4 pages of responses but I think Gebbia starts the season for 2 reasons; 1- there likely won't be a huge difference between him and Martinez at that point 2- because Frost may want to keep Gebbia happy enough to not bail and hang on to some depth. But I think Martinez will quickly grow into the much better QB for this system, his wheels are already noticably better. I will be shocked if AM is not the clear number 1 by mid to late season. No way Frost red shirts him thinking 4 years down the road (unless he just can't go at 100% for health reasons). We'll have 3 more classes of recruits in contention 4 years down the road and I believe Frost has shown he'll play the best players without much concern for what the future may hold.
I wasn't going by the Spring game, I was just asking him if he was. I should have clarified that second point as I don't know if AM can hit the deep ball as I do not watch practice. My bet is AM is the starter because he just has that natural fit in this offense. Gebbia has tons of respect from his teammates and so does AM, so whoever starts we KNOW it is the best player on the team to start at QB. None of this naming the starter after the spring game, make them uncomfortable and earn it every week. By week 6 we may have a different starter for whatever reason and that is just the name of the game because the best players play.BlitzFirst said:If we go by the spring game, Andrew Bunch is the winner. He went up against the #1's and had a better command of the offense than anyone else. Just saying...spring games tell us nothing in the long run.