Who should our next HC be?

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LOL I said that last year when we were recruiting him. I saw him play multiple times in HS and had him rated as the #3 HS RB in Louisiana. 

Why would Mickey want to go from being head coach back to coordinator? If he doesn't get the gig he's likely gone, imo.
He wouldn't be going "back" to coordinator.  He's a position coach and AHC to IHC.

 
I'm beginning to believe this isn't always true.  The coaches have to put the players in position to succeed.  How they run practices, what schemes they are running...etc. means a hell of a lot.
Great article on what Sanders is willing to do to win.  Change OC during he season.  And this was when they were 3-1.  And the OC was a former teammate with him at Atlanta....and who he'd known for 30 years....

A good quote and what is desperately needed at NU.

“He’s very demanding. He doesn’t accept mediocrity at all. That’s 24 hours a day, seven days a week and that’s the culture that’s been established around here. You know you can’t [cut] corners with him.

https://andscape.com/features/jackson-states-offense-now-playing-at-a-high-level-under-new-coordinator-t-c-taylor/

 
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I think I know who the mystery man is that checks ALL the boxes.   He knows the entire country in football experience, great on the field and the classroom, available immediately now, will almost certainly retain MJ and Busch having worked with both of them.  
 

Experience in Big Ten and Big 12.  
Understands the X & Os  and the Ps & Qs. 
A GRINDER. 
Hard working character guy. 
I don’t believe anyone has seriously mentioned his name as a candidate yet. 
Almost guaranteed fit in Lincoln.  Probably be a popular choice for some fans while others will take some time to come to like the success he can achieve.  It will be sustainable 
 

Can u guess him?   
i will reveal him tomorrow night if nobody gets it sooner.  
BO PELINI

 
Doeren looks like a winner. Wonder if he would consider coming here?
I hope so.  Seems like a no nonsense kind of coach that has big ten/midwest coaching.

My only other "theory" would be hire Mickey, have have him hire Vance as DC (maybe a SEC type D with Mickeys recruiting) and who knows......He hire Tommy Herman as OC. LETS GO???  

I can type for hours on end......I just wanna watch us be good again. I am sick of listening to my Iowa and Wisconsin friends talking crap. 

 
I still think Deion would be a huge risk to take as a HC but after reading some of his recruiting philosophies and what he says it takes to win in P5 football,  I might be okay with giving him a shot. 
 

He said skill players will always do their thing but when it comes to winning games,  it starts in the trenches and at QB.  He brought in 7 linemen from the transfer portal and has gotten a commitment from a 4* DL already this year.  
 

 
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Doeren is not high on my list. Would be underwhelming.  Aranda is high on my list. I think he’d always field a good defense.

 
I think I know who the mystery man is that checks ALL the boxes.   He knows the entire country in football experience, great on the field and the classroom, available immediately now, will almost certainly retain MJ and Busch having worked with both of them.  
 

Experience in Big Ten and Big 12.  
Understands the X & Os  and the Ps & Qs. 
A GRINDER. 
Hard working character guy. 
I don’t believe anyone has seriously mentioned his name as a candidate yet. 
Almost guaranteed fit in Lincoln.  Probably be a popular choice for some fans while others will take some time to come to like the success he can achieve.  It will be sustainable 
 

Can u guess him?   
i will reveal him tomorrow night if nobody gets it sooner.  


Matt Canada?

 
You guys are crapping on Leipold when his Kansas team would whip the sh$& out of us if we played on Saturday.  We have the finest arm chair quarterbacks in college football round here.


So since your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd choice is urban Meyer, Round out your top 5 for us


So since your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd choice is urban Meyer, Round out your top 5 for us
Let me clarify it again I never said Campbell or Lance Leipold aren't good coaches. IN MY HONEST OPINION do you think they can have sustainable success here. It's going to take another 3-4 years of hoping that they can be good it wont be a short rebuild. Trev should swing for the fences and not go for a conservative search. You guys keep telling me about past candidates that past on this job you have to think that money had to be involved and how much Nebraska was willing to spend at that time. Nebraska has more money to spend now more then ever so at least go try and get the best available coach. One that has experience winning at a high level and having consistent success.  That's what Nebraska should go do to become successful again in my book and I know I'm not the only Husker fan that thinks about it that way.

 
Architecture/Construction industry. We use a similar process with a company that has their recruiters reach out to potential office candidates for us, utilizing our job description  without sharing our company name to gauge interest in our position to keep it discreet. The recruiter will then present their findings to us and we look over their resumes and their conversation with the recruiter and decide if we want to take it further. Its nothing set in stone and mainly information gathering to make sure we hit the ground running if a change is made versus trying to react and possibly have down time by a rash decision. 

Completely different industry for sure, but a handy method if necessary. 
That is commonplace in my experience also and I have been in several different industries over the years. Doesn’t always work out, but when I have to let people go, I always try to get the replacement lined up in advance 

 
Let me clarify it again I never said Campbell or Lance Leipold aren't good coaches. IN MY HONEST OPINION do you think they can have sustainable success here. It's going to take another 3-4 years of hoping that they can be good it wont be a short rebuild. Trev should swing for the fences and not go for a conservative search. You guys keep telling me about past candidates that past on this job you have to think that money had to be involved and how much Nebraska was willing to spend at that time. Nebraska has more money to spend now more then ever so at least go try and get the best available coach. One that has experience winning at a high level and having consistent success.  That's what Nebraska should go do to become successful again in my book and I know I'm not the only Husker fan that thinks about it that way.
So what candidates would qualify as a ‘swing for the fences’?

 
With Matt Rhule now being available after being fired from the Carolina Panthers, does he seem like a good fit? Was able to twice get teams to good records at Temple and Baylor. 

His NFL record was not good but that can be said for many other college power 5 coaches. 
I was a little excited when I saw he had been released by the Panthers. As I looked up his numbers , his 3 recruiting classes at Baylor were #39 - #29 - #40. He was able to attract a lot of Texas kids which would be much more difficult from Lincoln Nebraska. Plus the dude will make $864,000 a month from Carolina for 4 1/2 years if he doesn't take a job somewhere. Is he motivated to jump in with both feet and rebuild this program or does he need a year to recharge his batteries raking in money hand over fist. Now if he would agree to work for a dollar a year and let Carolina pick up the tab and allow him to get two great well paid coordinators then we might be able to make something work. Another plus would be NIL which he didn't have at Baylor or Temple. NIL has brought in some good skill people this spring and summer but both O and D line still need help.

 
Great article on what Sanders is willing to do to win.  Change OC during he season.  And this was when they were 3-1.  And the OC was a former teammate with him at Atlanta....and who he'd known for 30 years....

A good quote and what is desperately needed at NU.

“He’s very demanding. He doesn’t accept mediocrity at all. That’s 24 hours a day, seven days a week and that’s the culture that’s been established around here. You know you can’t [cut] corners with him.

https://andscape.com/features/jackson-states-offense-now-playing-at-a-high-level-under-new-coordinator-t-c-taylor/
OMG....HE HIRES HIS FRIENDS!!!!

:sarcasm

 
Well, I don't know.....Abraham Lincoln was a big supporter of the internet being a library of truth.


It’s a library alright. Facts, fiction and everything in between. 

Myths are like dandelion seeds. A couple of plants then before you know it the whole lawn is filled with them!

 
You guys are crapping on Leipold when his Kansas team would whip the sh$& out of us if we played on Saturday.  We have the finest arm chair quarterbacks in college football round here.

We need to be respectable again, and compete for the division.  Leipold would do that quickly. We will NEVER win a national championship again. NEVER. Get that through your skulls and get some realistic expectations.  You'll be much more satisfied in life.
This is exactly what I thought about hiring Campbell away from Iowa State shortly after he got there....so we should steal any area coach who gets a few wins? That's creepy.

 
I just...I have to say it and face the backlash...I think I'm realizing winning at football is not a goal of the admin anymore.  And hasn't been for at least 2 decades and going.  prove me wrong, Trev.  Please prove me to be an idiot.  I want to be one in this case.
To be fair the leadership from the AD on down has been less than stellar the last 10 years. Moos and Eichorst were dumpster fires. One stuck his finger in the air to see what the popular opinions were and the other chose to hire a coach who was just the opposite of the coach who stole his lunch money. I'm still pi$$ed at the high recommendation Barry Alvarez gave for Eich. He knew exactly what he would do to the Husker programs. Like you I do hope Trev can break the cycle of hiring underwhelming head coaches.

 
Urban Meyer, Chris Peterson, Mark Stoops, Dave Aranda, Kyle Whittingham. A nationally known coach. Not saying anyone of them would come but with enough money in their face someone would accept.
Fair enough. Most reasonable folks understand that Meyer does not want the job.  Whittingham ain’t leaving. Not sure about Peterson, but it would surprise me if he were interested. Maybe aranda would come?  Feel like stoops would be making at best a lateral move by leaving for Nebraska. 

 
Some people have mentioned Curt Cignetti on this board. 
He was mentioned in response to DS.

So, just to be clear, you consider….

1) Out-recruiting literally everyone in the country (considering where he’s at)
He's literally not out-recruiting everyone in the country, but I agree he is doing a fantastic job considering where he's at. 

2) Proven track record of winning at a place that hasn’t won in forever
He hasn't even finished his 3rd season as a college coach. That's the opposite of "proven track record".

3) Has more football knowledge in his little finger than most people have ever know
This is just random hyperbole.

4) Preaches accountability, faith, morals, hard work, fundamentals, teaching young men, etc. above all else
Ok. Preaching faith at a public school is a mark against him for me, but I respect what he's done developing young men as a high school coach.

5) Knows how to work the hell out of the transfer portal

6) Knows how to work the hell out of the NIL (again, especially considering where he’s at)
He's done very well for where he's at. The assumption seems to be that he'd be able to do that even better at Nebraska, but that's a big assumption.

7) Hires an amazing staff above his class much like his recruiting/NIL/transfer portal/etc.
Does he? I've seen he has a former NFL analyst on staff, but that's about it. I'd say that's a huge question mark.

8) Has a national reach that would instantly put Nebraska at the top of every news cycle, something we haven’t seen since the 90’s

9) Can literally get in every living room, board room, and any room in between that’s needed to make Nebraska better
These are more really big assumptions.

10) Instantly washes Nebraska of the negative stigma that’s part of what has us where we’re at
No he doesn't. This is wishcasting.

…to be more flash than substance?
Yes.

You’re joking on the bold part right? Sorry, I love me some MJ, but he can’t hold Deions jockstrap when it comes to being qualified to be the next head coach at NU.
This is utter nonsense. Sanders has never even coached at a FBS school with just 2 years as a college coach. While MJ has 17 years as a college coach including 6 years in FBS and 2 years as HC of a HBCU.

Look, Sanders has an impressive 2 years at Jacksonville St, but that's not much to go on for qualifications as the Nebraska HC.

 
To be fair the leadership from the AD on down has been less than stellar the last 10 years. Moos and Eichorst were dumpster fires. One stuck his finger in the air to see what the popular opinions were and the other chose to hire a coach who was just the opposite of the coach who stole his lunch money. I'm still pi$$ed at the high recommendation Barry Alvarez gave for Eich. He knew exactly what he would do to the Husker programs. Like you I do hope Trev can break the cycle of hiring underwhelming head coaches.
Anyone who passes out copies of The Energy Bus to everyone in their office is suspect in my view (Eichorst). I got a chuckle learning that.  It’s something that might be given to adolescents at summer camp. It’s a nifty positivity book without a lot of depth. Mr. Sunshine probably would’ve been better off promoting listening and effective conflict resolution during his tenure.

 
How about we start beating teams that we should have a talent advantage on? You know, like the teams in the Big Ten West.
There is no reason that we shouldn’t be having more success. We’re expected to win and don’t. That’s a good place to start. To an extent we’re blinded by our tradition of having been dominating winners. It carries over into how we present ourselves to players from when they’re recruited. We’re not that anymore. And the mindset starts at the top. 
 

 
You guys are crapping on Leipold when his Kansas team would whip the sh$& out of us if we played on Saturday.  We have the finest arm chair quarterbacks in college football round here.

We need to be respectable again, and compete for the division.  Leipold would do that quickly. We will NEVER win a national championship again. NEVER. Get that through your skulls and get some realistic expectations.  You'll be much more satisfied in life.
Exactly.  Again, after Solich was fired, everybody thought it was a plum job and that top coaches would be lining up for it.  People were talking on forums like this - just like they are now - and throwing around names of top coaches - even guys like Bill Parcels or Steve Mariucci.  And then a guy named Houston Nutt said up yours, he'd rather stay with the Razorback Hogs.  Ended up with a last minute desperation hire in Calahan.  Forget Urban Meyer.  He isn't coming.  Trev needs to find the diamond in the rough.

 


Payton will be coaching in the NFL again soon. The Dolphins were going to offer him a 5-year, $100-million contract. He's also technically still under contract with the Saints... not sure how that would work for us.

 
we all want a HC that is swing for the fences.  but if UM ain't coming, then all the rest are chumps.  once we understand that, maybe we just get a guy that will run the offense many of us want to see and live with mediocrity.  so go for the guys that are run first, big boy OL, nasty demeanor.  moncton, chadwell, air force stuff.  i'm so sick of yolo's, picks and 3 and outs.  

 
So you admit that you're wrong and then still try to blame it on someone else?  That's quite the gymnastics routine.

Also, his claim was significantly different than yours.


I always was quite agile and nimble

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...and hey, at least I admit when I'm wrong

 
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That’s true, it might be hard to get those guys… but the way Aranda presents himself and represents his school would make him worth getting.
I have zero problem with Aranda either. Brings a level of toughness Trev talks about and does check most of the boxes. I really like Jeff Grimes his OC as well. Mickey and Busch would hopefully stay on as well. Would he come here? Does Trev want him? That’s the question.

 
That’s true, it might be hard to get those guys… but the way Aranda presents himself and represents his school would make him worth getting.
I agree. Aranda would be a good get. I just don’t see us being able to pull him away.

Another horrible take. I’m shocked.
How is that a horrible take? Would be a much better get than neon Deion. Problem is we aren’t going get Aranda and not going to even look at Sanders.

 
Fair enough. Most reasonable folks understand that Meyer does not want the job.  Whittingham ain’t leaving. Not sure about Peterson, but it would surprise me if he were interested. Maybe aranda would come?  Feel like stoops would be making at best a lateral move by leaving for Nebraska. 
Kids go play for coaches that are winners. I talked about it earlier that its going to take a coach and a great coaching staff to be great recruiters bc top tier talent matters. You have to have both in order to succeed. Nebraska hasn't had great recruiters or great developers so that has definitely hurt us.

 
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