Who should our next HC be?

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I just...I have to say it and face the backlash...I think I'm realizing winning at football is not a goal of the admin anymore.  And hasn't been for at least 2 decades and going.  prove me wrong, Trev.  Please prove me to be an idiot.  I want to be one in this case.

 
M.A. said:
There's no reason we can't be as competitive as many other successful programs in the league. There's challenges and I think most people's expectations are reasonable. 

I like Napier, Chadwell and Norvell. We have talent in skill positions in particular. I want to have an identity of having a stout offensive line and being more physical on both sides of the ball. It's not like ordering super of coarse (ha) but I'd like to get a group together of coaches and players that have as many "redeeming qualities" as possible. We're nowhere near where we should be now going into year 5. 
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What makes you think a coach like Napier would even think about leaving Florida for Nebraska or even any of those coaches??? We may not be but take baby steps in order to take big steps.

 
One thing is certain in my opinion.   The next HC has to be a slam dunk big time splash guy.  A guaranteed recruit magnet with winning resume (P5, multi conf titles, natty, 10 plus yrs HC, media relations, etc).  The money is almost irrelevant.  
 

DONU has tired to hire a ‘good’ fb coach  with Frank, Bo, Riley, Callahan, and Frost.  Each had one or two of the resume boxes checked but clearly lacked a complete one.  Actually, you take the best of all of then and package em up and you got the one we need.

-  player magnet nationally known recruiting

-  10 + yrs HC at major program as winner

-  household name recognition as top HC

-  available to start ASAP or be announced           very soon if currently coaching. 
-  other resume enhancers,  not required but helpful, such as NFL experience as player or coach,  past ties to Nebraska, media relations, successful history in multiple offensive schemes OR defensive background.   
 

Essentially, this program is in its last legs without a major surgery.  The NEB FB brand is so tarnished as to hardly recognized by the recruits of today and tomorrow.  The next HC has to bring his own recruiting gravitas, he gets very little from the school and program.  The legacy brand is gone - squandered and wasted by the almost ready guys that preceded him.  
 

Fortunately, there is some residue of talent roughly half the current roster can provide a base to put a layer of perhaps 30-40 transfers and retain and build with h.s. recruits.  There are some staff that can be retained.  The transfer portal allows free agents en masse. It’s is not a long term project. DONU still is a football blue blood with huge fan base and audience attraction.  The time to strike is now.  
 

Is it too late for Frost ?  He needed that NW win and a blow out of ND.  He needed to make most national pundits believers again.  He’s failed. These two games have shown the 2022 team is likely not much ‘closer’ to top ten relevance than Riley or Pelini.  In fact it’s likely that Frost has yet to field a team as good as either Riley or Bo.  He’s trending down, lost his recruiting cache and is no longer even a fan favorite in Nebraska.  I don’t see how he recovers. He’s doomed to fail.  He squandered every opportunity and then some. 

 
The Scarlet Pimpernel said:
Am I supposed to be impressed?  :confucius  

Data shows that if you want to win championships, you've gotta finish in Top 15 recruiting-wise on a regular basis. Can Campbell or Leipold consistently bring in Top 15 classes? Hell no.
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Convenient to ignore the 2nd part where Frost got into the teens while winning 3 and 4 games and the fact that he pulled in terrible in a recruiting hotbed before. At least Campbell absolutely could. There is no way you can be that certain he can't. 

 
Firing him in season doesn't seem to accomplish much.

Appointing Mickey as some sort of auditioning coach doesn't seem to accomplish much either.

It will all play out and NU will be fine.  Once the right coach is hired, no matter how many times it takes, NU will be fine.

 
PasstheDamnBallGuy said:
It's kind of hilarious how you come in here and act like everyone else is stupid for not beleiving yalls opinion and when anyone makes their argument you start playing the victim.
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Did I ever say you or anybody else was stupid. We both have a different opinion. Just bc we haven't been back to the mountain doesn't mean we can't get there and I've heard certain people on here say that Nebraska will never win a another one and Im saying great thats how you feel thats how you feel but i will never think that way. All i have ever wanted is for Nebraska not to short change themselves but the Administration has. Either by firing, hiring or not going out and trying to get the best possible candidate to lead us to a championship. Imho who knows if Nebraska could or can get Urban Meyer but to not even try I think is stupid. You go ask a winner what does it take and he will tell you elite recruits with elite coaches. Alot of people ive heard say Nebraska isnt in the position to get elite. Why bc they haven't won. Tradition and 900 wins bc who wouldn't want to take a program like that over??

 
Make Campbell, Aranda and Fickell tell you "no", then move onto Rhule, Chadwell or Mullen. 

Hard pass on O'Brien for me. 

 
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Dogs In A Pile said:
Wow. 136 pages so far in just over 3 weeks.

Great job!

With probably 10 weeks left until we find out who our next HC will be this thread is on pace to easily eclipse the Scott Frost mega-thread from 2017 and go far beyond it. And the real and/or fabricated leaks haven't even started up in earnest yet!
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:include chuckleshuffle

 
huskerfan99 said:
The one thing people need to remember is 8-9 wins at Iowa St. or Kansas recruits a lot different than 8-9 wins at Nebraska. 
 

You win that many here and it almost guarantees you a top 25 class. If you’re good at developing and hit on a lot of recruits in a class or 2 then the future is really bright. 
 
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If Leipold wins 9 games at Kansas, I'll be impressed. Campbell has only accomplished that feat once at ISU. Let's see how it plays out. 

 
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A coach that’s worth consideration in my opinion if he'd be interested would be Jeff Grimes. 

Grimes has a wealth of experience. Knows the importance of having a strong 0-line. Has leadership credentials. He would fit Nebraska's culture. His scheme involves a great deal of physicality that would work well in the Big 10. He values disciplined play and would put emphasis on developing players.

He'd bring some recruiting advantages in Texas and the south. It seems that he would be able to assemble a group of competent assistants. Plus, he's a humble, likable guy that relates well with people.  

Jeff is definitely one of the long shots for head coach though has a broad range of appealing qualities. 

I've been experiencing some technical challenges today...I'm sorry if I've made a duplicate entry somewhere here. :)




 
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PasstheDamnBallGuy said:
Convenient to ignore the 2nd part where Frost got into the teens while winning 3 and 4 games and the fact that he pulled in terrible in a recruiting hotbed before. At least Campbell absolutely could. There is no way you can be that certain he can't. 
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Frost was one of the hottest coaching names in the country when he arrived here. It was no surprise to see him recruit in the teens, and reinforces my claim that we need a coach with name value who can recruit top names to Lincoln. Campbell doesn't have it.

 
84HuskerLaw said:
One thing is certain in my opinion.   The next HC has to be a slam dunk big time splash guy.  A guaranteed recruit magnet with winning resume (P5, multi conf titles, natty, 10 plus yrs HC, media relations, etc).  The money is almost irrelevant.  
 

DONU has tired to hire a ‘good’ fb coach  with Frank, Bo, Riley, Callahan, and Frost.  Each had one or two of the resume boxes checked but clearly lacked a complete one.  Actually, you take the best of all of then and package em up and you got the one we need.

-  player magnet nationally known recruiting

-  10 + yrs HC at major program as winner

-  household name recognition as top HC

-  available to start ASAP or be announced           very soon if currently coaching. 
-  other resume enhancers,  not required but helpful, such as NFL experience as player or coach,  past ties to Nebraska, media relations, successful history in multiple offensive schemes OR defensive background.   
 

Essentially, this program is in its last legs without a major surgery.  The NEB FB brand is so tarnished as to hardly recognized by the recruits of today and tomorrow.  The next HC has to bring his own recruiting gravitas, he gets very little from the school and program.  The legacy brand is gone - squandered and wasted by the almost ready guys that preceded him.  
 

Fortunately, there is some residue of talent roughly half the current roster can provide a base to put a layer of perhaps 30-40 transfers and retain and build with h.s. recruits.  There are some staff that can be retained.  The transfer portal allows free agents en masse. It’s is not a long term project. DONU still is a football blue blood with huge fan base and audience attraction.  The time to strike is now.  
 

Is it too late for Frost ?  He needed that NW win and a blow out of ND.  He needed to make most national pundits believers again.  He’s failed. These two games have shown the 2022 team is likely not much ‘closer’ to top ten relevance than Riley or Pelini.  In fact it’s likely that Frost has yet to field a team as good as either Riley or Bo.  He’s trending down, lost his recruiting cache and is no longer even a fan favorite in Nebraska.  I don’t see how he recovers. He’s doomed to fail.  He squandered every opportunity and then some. 
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Lots of relevancy there!

Weren’t coaches like Osborne and Petersen playing the “infinite game”? To me it seems so. What do you think?
 

It’s possible that coach Frost has read the book.




 
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The Scarlet Pimpernel said:
Frost was one of the hottest coaching names in the country when he arrived here. It was no surprise to see him recruit in the teens, and reinforces my claim that we need a coach with name value who can recruit top names to Lincoln. Campbell doesn't have it.
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If Campbell wins 8-9 a year at Nebraska his classes are top 25 at minimum. Easily 

Top recruiting classes mean jack s#!t if you fail to develop and retain said players. 

 
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a quality, known coach is not coming here.  best hope is for a young rising hopeful.

money alone is not going to get us a top notch guy.

 
84HuskerLaw said:
One thing is certain in my opinion.   The next HC has to be a slam dunk big time splash guy.  
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What if he's not a slam run home dunk splish splash I was taking a bath fancy shmancy take a trip to Francey, but he knows how to win?

 
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huskerfan99 said:
If Campbell wins 8-9 a year at Nebraska his classes are top 25 at minimum. Easily 

Top recruiting classes mean jack s#!t if you fail to develop and retain said players. 
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And my question to many is how long do you think its going to take those coaches to get there 8-9 wins? College football is all about the now thats why there is such a short lease on coaches being hired and turning a program around instantly. Most new coaches get usually 2-3 window on that. Scott was lucky to get 4+ years to try but in the end we as Husker Fans suffer. How long do you think the next coach should get to show improvement?

 
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