Who should our next HC be?

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Guy Chamberlin said:
Hindsight is always perfect, but if you went back to 2014 you would find zero Husker fans saying they'd be cool with Nebraska football topping out at 9-4, unranked, out Big10 contention, and with one of the worst records against ranked opponents in the Power5, typically a nationally televised embarrassment. 

Fired from Nebraska, Bo Pelini was hired by his hometown college with the full support of his old friend and AD Jim Tressel. Freed from Harvey Perleman and Nebraska expectations, Bo lasted three fewer seasons at Youngstown State than he did at Nebraska, moving on to the even friendlier comfort zone of his old job as DC at LSU, where the team posted the worst defensive numbers in its history and Bo was fired after one season. Although only 54 years old, Bo Pelini has not coached since and is rarely cited for any HC openings. 

For whatever reason.
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Hindsight isn't ALWAYS perfect.

Sometimes folks forget Pelini topped out at 10-4.

And only finished one year unranked in Coaches' Poll and two in the AP poll.

 
admo said:
I do not see a coach out there worth more than $5 mil per year deal at Nebraska.  History shows too much turnover and buyouts. I'm talking this next hire new contract (probably 4 years $22-28 range).

Just pay him to come here doesn't feel like reality (8-9-10 mil per year).

I could be wrong, but it feels like we are going to start over from scratch.  Feels like MJ would be the ideal 3-year starter deal around $12 mil total.  And perhaps he does well and gets a great bump, or perhaps he fails and the next guy gets a super sweet deal as a "can't miss" coach.
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NU paid Frost $5 million a year (before his reduced contract), so the starting point for the next coach is at least $6M+.  NU should not cheap out on the next coaching hire, even if it's Mickey.  NU needs to pay the market rate for what they think the job is worth.  Stop trying to save a few bucks.  NU has plenty of it.

 
admo said:
Maybe, and he should.  

Just an opinion as I see this coaching search going nowhere.  I know nothing.  But I firmly believe MJ is the new hire.  Time will tell my man.
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You think the coaching search isn't going anywhere because you may have unrealistic expectations on what the coaching search should be.  If it's not Mickey, which I don't think it will be, Trev is most likely going to hire a coach who is currently coaching somewhere.  A new coach isn't going to be hired until after Thanksgiving, which is 5 weeks from now.  We still have a ways to go, so you can continue thinking the coaching search is "going nowhere".

Trev is going to be tight-lipped during the next few weeks and let it all play out, and then the next head coach will be named shortly after Thanksgiving.  I don't know what else to tell you.

 
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ColoradoHusk said:
NU paid Frost $5 million a year (before his reduced contract), so the starting point for the next coach is at least $6M+.  NU should not cheap out on the next coaching hire, even if it's Mickey.  NU needs to pay the market rate for what they think the job is worth.  Stop trying to save a few bucks.  NU has plenty of it.
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They will be opening the pocketbooks for the HC and his assistants. Trev has mentioned money as no object on multiple occasions. Kicking Frost out instead of waiting to not pay him the 7.5 Million shows the pockets are deep and they are willing to spend if the right person aligns. 

 
husker009 said:
The way I see it is that he could end up being either Solich or Frost. I’m not sure NU is in a position where they can afford to roll the dice on another hire. 
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I think we need a guy who can recruit (this includes evaluating talent) OR can develop the hell out of the guys he recruits.  I think Mickey has shown the ability to recruit and evaluate talent.  It also seems that the guys who can recruit at a high level are also successful coaches and are considered offensive or defensive "gurus"..

As I re-read what I wrote, one thing is glaring.  Our previous HC's did a horrible job with getting legit coordinators and  position coaches. I look at MJ as a position coach, develops talent and recruits.  Applewhite, develops the RB room etc....IMHO, this is why Trev has said that we will have the largest assistant salary pool ever.  I think he realizes a part of Frost's failure was the crew of guys he brought with him.

 
ColoradoHusk said:
You think the coaching search isn't going anywhere because you may have unrealistic expectations on what the coaching search should be.  If it's not Mickey, which I don't think it will be, Trev is most likely going to hire a coach who is currently coaching somewhere.  A new coach isn't going to be hired until after Thanksgiving, which is 5 weeks from now.  We still have a ways to go, so you can continue thinking the coaching search is "going nowhwere".
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I know what you mean, and even though I think it's MJ, and saying so with more hope than anything, I won't front and be disappointed if it's not.  I say going nowhere because I have no clue until the time comes, like you said. 

So maybe I should have said "I strongly desire MJ to be retained (CEO type HC and beef up the Assistant coaches), even though I have no idea who Trev will hire next, which could be someone with experience currently coaching somewhere"  :)

 
lo country said:
I think we need a guy who can recruit (this includes evaluating talent) OR can develop the hell out of the guys he recruits.  I think Mickey has shown the ability to recruit and evaluate talent.  It also seems that the guys who can recruit at a high level are also successful coaches and are considered offensive or defensive "gurus"..

As I re-read what I wrote, one thing is glaring.  Our previous HC's did a horrible job with getting legit coordinators and  position coaches. I look at MJ as a position coach, develops talent and recruits.  Applewhite, develops the RB room etc....IMHO, this is why Trev has said that we will have the largest assistant salary pool ever.  I think he realizes a part of Frost's failure was the crew of guys he brought with him.
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Absolutely need a high level staff to support the next HC regardless if its Mickey or an outside HC. Always surround yourself with people smarter than you. 

 
admo said:
I know what you mean, and even though I think it's MJ, and saying so with more hope than anything, I won't front and be disappointed if it's not.  I say going nowhere because I have no clue until the time comes, like you said. 

So maybe I should have said "I strongly desire MJ to be retained (CEO type HC and beef up the Assistant coaches), even though I have no idea who Trev will hire next, which could be someone with experience currently coaching somewhere"  :)
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You and I agree in that we hope for a CEO-type HC and a strong group of Assistant Coaches.  I have nothing against Mickey, but I just think there are better options out there for that role at Nebraska.  I want the next head coach to have Mickey on the staff as the WR coach and lead recruiter (coordinator), but not as OC.  While Mickey has done a commendable job as Interim Head Coach, I think there are better options out there, as Mickey's overall lack of leading a program is concerning to me.  

 
ColoradoHusk said:
You and I agree in that we hope for a CEO-type HC and a strong group of Assistant Coaches.  I have nothing against Mickey, but I just think there are better options out there for that role at Nebraska.  I want the next head coach to have Mickey on the staff as the WR coach and lead recruiter (coordinator), but not as OC.  While Mickey has done a commendable job as Interim Head Coach, I think there are better options out there, as Mickey's overall lack of leading a program is concerning to me.  
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Yes we do, and I can be onboard with that. 

 
funhusker said:
Hindsight isn't ALWAYS perfect.

Sometimes folks forget Pelini topped out at 10-4.

And only finished one year unranked in Coaches' Poll and two in the AP poll.
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Oh we would look at that 7 year record right now and put that unnamed coach in consideration for the current HC job.

But that's not how it felt in 2014. Or after that last 10-4 season in 2012. 

Nor does most of college football think Nebraska made a mistake firing Pelini. Otherwise they would have hired him.

 
admo said:
Maybe, and he should.  

Just an opinion as I see this coaching search going nowhere.  I know nothing.  But I firmly believe MJ is the new hire.  Time will tell my man.
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The top guy I want is Luke Fickell, but if Mickey beats Illinois that will be huge for his candidacy. If I heard that Trev was close to a deal with Fickell today I would be angry because Trev would have not lived up to his word with Mickey. I think it is great we aren't hearing a legit leak or a peep of legit rumors. Sure the media is spewing stuff, but how much of that is for clicks? 

 
lo country said:
...As I re-read what I wrote, one thing is glaring.  Our previous HC's did a horrible job with getting legit coordinators and  position coaches. I look at MJ as a position coach, develops talent and recruits.  Applewhite, develops the RB room etc....IMHO, this is why Trev has said that we will have the largest assistant salary pool ever.  I think he realizes a part of Frost's failure was the crew of guys he brought with him.
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An NFL staff, maybe?

All the common names being thrown out there (except Rhule, kinda), are primarily College Guys.

Ron Rivera & Mike Tomlin may be on the hot seat... potential candidates? 

We may also consider stealing a top NFL coordinator if he can bring guys who develop talent at a pro level with him.

Eric Bieniemy, Mike Kafka, Leslie Frazier or Ken Dorsey would be interesting, maybe.

IDK... it may be better to stick with someone who knows the college ranks, but interesting to discuss, as it is a possibility

 
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