Who should our next HC be?

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Scarlet said:
And looking strictly at offensive output doesn't really tell you anything about how that effects the wins and losses.  A ball control offense grinding down opponents isn't necessary going to score more points than a quick strike offense.   But what's the impact on the team's defense when it's on the field all day?
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I was not expecting for someone to use the "scoring more doesn't tell you anything about winning" defense but here we are.

 
Well who has not gotten an extension lately-

Aranda- under contract till 2029???

Doeren

BoB- i don't think assistants get extensions

Rhule- just the opposite

Fickel- not sure

Klieman- got an automatic year added by winning 8 games

Urban?????

Dan Lanning- just my darkhorse.

it's getting good now.

 
hunnit said:
Sounds like you're describing Scott Frost
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No. Frost has been a coach since 2007 and all but two of those years were at the FBS levels. He was 33-8 while working as an OC at Oregon, OC'd a national title contender, and then we all know what his 2017 UCF team did. I realize it's fun to play revisionist's history with Frost nowadays but he was, by most objective measurements, a great hire for Nebraska back in 2017.

I'd like to see Deion get into the FBS and put a couple of years under his belt before he tries to coach at a place like Nebraska. There's a reason you don't usually hand a F4 driver the keys to a F1 car.

 
I’m thinking it’s gonna end up being Fickell. With the assist going to none other than Urban. 
 

I think Urban has been helping Trev behind the scenes a bit and put in a good word with Luke.

The flights to Florida and Ohio are telling IMO.

 
Loebarth said:
Actually, Lovie took them bowling mate... Lovie was let go because his offense wasn't getting it done. His defense however was as he was focusing on defensive recruits while overlooking the in-state offensive talent and I personally think Lovie would have had the same success the last 2 years that BB has. BB showed with his last 2 classes at whisky and his Arky classes that he isn't a good recruiter. That said, maybe illinois has an MJ on staff that will rectify BB's lacking. Obviously I'm "not" a BB fan. In fact, I'm disgusted even looking at his grossness. 

Great Image for any University
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I would take that fat bastard over the ripped, chiseled, physical specimen that coached NU for 2018-early 2022.

 
Isn't there some law about having to publicly post to position before someone can get hired? Did they already do that a while ago or are they gonna to have to do it right before they announce? 

 
I can't imagine a worse visual for the program if NU gets blown out Friday and Trev names Mickey the HC after the game or over the weekend. That would be the epitome of embarrassment. 

 
Red Silk Smoking Jacket said:
I dont think we know of a single interview. Not one. Which is why I always think it’s funny when people say this guy is out or that guys not coming. There is nothing to indicate who it will be at all.
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This is where we are at.  For all we know every guy mentioned has passed or not even been asked.  Maybe Urb has agreed and they are working out some character contract. Maybe it is someone no one has ever heard of and he wants to wait until the season is over.  Maybe it's Helton, but the wound of that loss is still too fresh.  Maybe knew Saban would have issues and waiting for him to have more losses in one season than his entire career at Bama.  Swoop in before other schools do.  

 
This is like watching first round of the NFL draft when your team is picking 18th and they are somewhere in the teens, and the teams ahead of you are slowly depleting the draft board until you end up reaching for someone.

That's the vibe I'm getting from this  :mellow:

 
Hayseed said:
Deion Sanders recruited a top player away from Alabama by convincing him to "play for his people" at an HBCU against other HBCUs. Doing that and playing against that competition has very little correlation to coaching a P5 team. There's no guarantee he can recruit anyone to Nebraska any better than another coach can.
Given the choice between Sanders and Joseph, I'm sticking with Joseph.
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For today's top recruits, college is a stopover on your way to an NFL career. I think Deion's reputation -- whether he's earned it or not --- is that he's going to get you NFL ready and get you NFL attention. 

He won over the recruit's dad before he steps foot in his living room, and it sounds like he knows exactly what to say to the mom. 

I just don't see Deion enjoying Runzas. Probably not going to work here. 

 
runningblind said:
Running your quarterback that much is not a good idea in 2022. No one does this, there is a reason it's that way. You think you're smarter than all the coaches in FBS besides the ones that have no other option like the service academies?
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We don't run our QBs much at all, and all 3 are hurt to varying degrees. That doesn't seem smart. 

Osborne was one of the last P5 coaches to run his QBs like he did. Was he not smart?

 
Enhance said:
I'd like to see Deion get into the FBS and put a couple of years under his belt before he tries to coach at a place like Nebraska. There's a reason you don't usually hand a F4 driver the keys to a F1 car.
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Haha well, I got news for ya....our F1 car has been stuck in the garage for over a decade and Max Verstappen ain't walking through that door. Maybe Deion can be our Lewis Hamilton.

Or put another way, we are currently far from F1 and Deion is several notches above F4.

 
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CheeseHusker said:
This is like watching first round of the NFL draft when your team is picking 18th and they are somewhere in the teens, and the teams ahead of you are slowly depleting the draft board until you end up reaching for someone.

That's the vibe I'm getting from this  :mellow:
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PasstheDamnBallGuy said:
We have been running option football most years. In fact most teams do some form of option now and I havent seen a single person say they was a completely non option offense. I think most people want a balanced offense. We have seen offenses that relied mostly on run. Inevitably that gets shut down because there will always be some teams that will force you to try and beat them in the air and it gets really ugly. Everyone is pushing back on the idea that we go even further into a rushing shell and limit the areas where we can beat defenses. Its def ok to be a run heavy offense but you cant be just that in p5 and expect to compete at the highest levels. 
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Read option and Flexbone option are only the same insofar as they have a mesh point. Past that, the blocking schemes and overall philosophies are far different. 

We have tried to pass and be 'balanced' for 19 years. It obviously doesn't work. 

 
Stone Cold said:
I will say this, if we end up with michey (which i dont hate the idea) it will confirm that no one we wanted said yes.  And that is truly depressing.
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From our discussions of this morning, Aranda, Meyer, Rhule and Fickell remain with DeBoer and now Leipold getting extensions. My optimism is wavering yet those could be positive indications. There was some speculation that Stoops wasn't entirely out of the picture (hard to imagine). Rhule could still be in the picture. 

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
For today's top recruits, college is a stopover on your way to an NFL career. I think Deion's reputation -- whether he's earned it or not --- is that he's going to get you NFL ready and get you NFL attention. 

He won over the recruit's dad before he steps foot in his living room, and it sounds like he knows exactly what to say to the mom. 

I just don't see Deion enjoying Runzas. Probably not going to work here. 
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Does he have the reputation that he is going to get you NFL ready though? Just because he was one of the best to do it, does not mean he can get kids to that level.

I feel Deion is in the same type of spot as PJ Fleck. PJ can do whatever he wants here in MN because MN had been a nothing program for 50+ years. He brought excitement, noise, and some success to the program. Deion can basically do whatever he would like to do at Jackson State and they have had some success within the FCS. By no means am I saying they are the same person. Their situations are similar. In order for Deion to leave I feel it would be FSU that comes knocking...but the question that needs to be answered is: Does Deion really want to be at the FBS level?

 
When you all are describing Bert at Illinois, you are also describing Aranda at Baylor.  That concept works then for both in both ways.  At this point, I think that we are now falling down the list of best job available list.  Truthfully.  We are not that job anymore and with Wisky and Auburn out there, and the recent success they have had, we are not in that tier.  WE are better than most jobs out there right now, but if we don't make a move before the end of the season, we might be in lower tier of available jobs.  This is my concern at this moment.

 
Jeremy said:
We don't run our QBs much at all, and all 3 are hurt to varying degrees. That doesn't seem smart. 

Osborne was one of the last P5 coaches to run his QBs like he did. Was he not smart?
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Players are bigger & stronger today.  Running a qb the way Osborne did is not smart.  Our qb issues are due to a poor oline.

 
CheeseHusker said:
This is like watching first round of the NFL draft when your team is picking 18th and they are somewhere in the teens, and the teams ahead of you are slowly depleting the draft board until you end up reaching for someone.

That's the vibe I'm getting from this  :mellow:
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It's worked for the Chiefs :)

 
Red Silk Smoking Jacket said:
Yeah, I haven't denied both Urban's and Deion's question marks. They each have them just like every other choice. I'm simply pointing out that they are two of the top candidates (among several others), so they are going to be discussed, both here and outside of here.
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But if you listen to the discussion both inside and outside of here, Urban and Deion really aren't top candidates for the Nebraska job. Crazier things have happened, but with new HC jobs opening up and the discussion narrowing to the more realistic chances, those two guys don't warrant a lot of speculation because they have more and better options. It's fun to throw their names out, but as time moves on it doesn't make sense to measure other candidates against them as if we have the choice. 

 
Red Five said:
From Sherman today

Alberts would be best served to complete his evaluation of Joseph before mid-November. If he’s the choice when the Huskers lift off for Ann Arbor next week, based on Joseph’s body of work in managing the program, it ought to be clear.

And if not, Alberts needs to be intensely focused on zeroing in on his top candidate. Because when that flight lands back in Lincoln next Saturday night, just 12 days remain until Thanksgiving.

Ideally, Alberts’ choice would be settled and as secure as possible before the Huskers head back on the road to play Iowa on Black Friday.

No need exists to announce a decision on Joseph, as Alberts did with Frost a year ago at this time, but the AD should know soon. In fact, maybe he already does know, though as of four days ago before kickoff in Lincoln, four people with knowledge of the coaching search believed Joseph remained under consideration.

https://theathletic.com/3753815/2022/11/02/nebraska-mickey-joesph-casey-thompson/
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LOL..... a lot of ifs and buts and maybes, with assumptions and guess work. 

Writers be writing fluff.  I mean, anyone can have an opinion or thought scrambled up with "If..."  "maybe..."  "but...."  "Ideally...."  "and if not..."  

:facepalm:

 
talaricohusker said:
Also don’t know how to share twitter links 
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Paste the URL just like you've been doing.  But you either need to give it a couple of seconds to resolve before you click "Submit Reply" or - if it gives you the option at the bottom of the box - click "Paste as plain text" then give it a couple of seconds to resolve.

 
Nebhawk said:
When you all are describing Bert at Illinois, you are also describing Aranda at Baylor.  That concept works then for both in both ways.  At this point, I think that we are now falling down the list of best job available list.  Truthfully.  We are not that job anymore and with Wisky and Auburn out there, and the recent success they have had, we are not in that tier.  WE are better than most jobs out there right now, but if we don't make a move before the end of the season, we might be in lower tier of available jobs.  This is my concern at this moment.
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There is some talk from the Omaha media that an agreement will be in place the week before the Iowa game (so before the end of the season). That would allow NU to have its man and move forward, and the team can give Mickey a final send-off against Iowa. 

 
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