Who should we hire

Way too early to call for Riley's head; and way to early to analyze coordinators as potential replacements. This is assuming that no big name established/experienced head coaches will even consider this job (which, in all honesty, is probably true; let's be honest with ourselves). Only exception would be Art Briles; but I pray we aren't that desperate for a big name.

 
Dagerow said:
I'm always amazed people think Bo hit his ceiling.  This was his first HC job, and he never lost more than 9.  Lots of good coaches do something similar and when they get a great player (texas - Vince young), assistant coach (Oklahoma with Leach), or something else, it puts them over the top.  Heck, if TM didn't get injured, I think we would have been right in it.  I'll tell you this, I always had faith in a Bo teams and Bo himself.  Yes, he made mistakes (JP is the biggest), but he always was aware of them and looked to correct them.

Now go ahead and bash me.


He hit his ceiling here. Maybe he could do better somewhere else in the right circumstance, but 7 years of 9/10 wins is enough of a sample size to move on when your head coach is a constant embarrassment, and there's still plenty of on-field embarrassment.

Your examples don't work for your argument either. Mack Brown started the way Bo did, but he got better (11 win seasons, top 10 finishes, etc.), as well as playing the politics right and being a gentleman about it. I have no idea what you're talking about with Oklahoma, but Bob Stoops had that team at a NC caliber level from year 2 pretty much through year 17. Immediately, and sustained.

junior4949 said:
This is one of the reasons why I think Frost will eventually turn us down.  If we go back through time, I think most can agree that TO wasn't a big fan of Solich getting fired or Bo getting fired.  Frost has always thought a lot of TO.  Are we sure TO would even advise Frost to take this job? 


They're both adults. What kind of scenario are you imagining, 42 year old Frost calls up Osborne asking, "Do you think I should take the Nebraska job?", to which Osborne responds, "No definitely don't they're total losers that fired 9 win coaches"?

ANYWAYS

Every time these discussions come up it's equal parts humorous and sobering to see how out of touch with reality some of internet fanbase is. Kirby Smart isn't coming here unless he sh#ts the bed at Georgia. Dan Mullen isn't leaving MSU anytime soon barring something incredibly unlikely and unpredictable. Chris Petersen? Please, there's literally zero percent chance of that happening. DJ Durkin? B1G coaches have unspoken rules about leaving B1G schools for other B1G schools, and he also hasn't proved anything other than a losing season and beating a bad Texas team.

Scott Frost is and will continue to be our best gamble that we know of. If it's not him, the only hope is for it to be a Fuente/Herman/etc. before they were thought of as hot commodities.

 
Les Miles or Bob Stoops. We need an established coach, proven winner, and elite recruiter, not a young up-and-comer. Unfortunately we all know that Riley isn't going anywhere until his contract is up. 

 
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Nebhawk said:
Bob Stoops would be the first call made.  Scott Frost after that.  Big game Bob has a recruiting reputation that not many have in the game today.  He would be first call, and last call.  Checkbook wide open!


Why would Big game Bob even give us the time of day?  He's good friends with Bo.  We fired Bo.  I highly doubt Bob really needs the money.  Plus, his twins are seniors in high school.  I'd venture to guess he'll want to attend as many of their college football games as he can over the next five years.

 
Dagerow said:
I'm always amazed people think Bo hit his ceiling.  This was his first HC job, and he never lost more than 9.  Lots of good coaches do something similar and when they get a great player (texas - Vince young), assistant coach (Oklahoma with Leach), or something else, it puts them over the top.  Heck, if TM didn't get injured, I think we would have been right in it.  I'll tell you this, I always had faith in a Bo teams and Bo himself.  Yes, he made mistakes (JP is the biggest), but he always was aware of them and looked to correct them.

Now go ahead and bash me.
This is where I disagree with you.  I think Bo may have had a higher ceiling but his unwillingness to fire and hire better coordinators kept that from happening.

 
I stand by my prediction from after last season.  If this season tanks, or next season isn't any better, they let Mike "retire" and bring in Scott Frost.  I truly feel this was the plan all along, just a weird hunch.  Let Scott get 2-3 years as a head coach at a small school, then bring him in here.  Would be a fairly painless transition I think.

 
He hit his ceiling here. Maybe he could do better somewhere else in the right circumstance, but 7 years of 9/10 wins is enough of a sample size to move on when your head coach is a constant embarrassment, and there's still plenty of on-field embarrassment.

Your examples don't work for your argument either. Mack Brown started the way Bo did, but he got better (11 win seasons, top 10 finishes, etc.), as well as playing the politics right and being a gentleman about it. I have no idea what you're talking about with Oklahoma, but Bob Stoops had that team at a NC caliber level from year 2 pretty much through year 17. Immediately, and sustained.

They're both adults. What kind of scenario are you imagining, 42 year old Frost calls up Osborne asking, "Do you think I should take the Nebraska job?", to which Osborne responds, "No definitely don't they're total losers that fired 9 win coaches"?

ANYWAYS

Every time these discussions come up it's equal parts humorous and sobering to see how out of touch with reality some of internet fanbase is. Kirby Smart isn't coming here unless he sh#ts the bed at Georgia. Dan Mullen isn't leaving MSU anytime soon barring something incredibly unlikely and unpredictable. Chris Petersen? Please, there's literally zero percent chance of that happening. DJ Durkin? B1G coaches have unspoken rules about leaving B1G schools for other B1G schools, and he also hasn't proved anything other than a losing season and beating a bad Texas team.

Scott Frost is and will continue to be our best gamble that we know of. If it's not him, the only hope is for it to be a Fuente/Herman/etc. before they were thought of as hot commodities.


The bolded part isn't the scenario I'm imagining at all.  I have not a doubt in my mind that TO would be one of the first calls made by Frost if he's offered the job here.  The scenario I'm imagining is TO in his calm demeanor just reminding Frost mostly of what happened with both Solich and Bo.  I'm sure he would also remind him that he'd also more than likely be coming here joining a new AD.  I don't think TO tells him no don't take this job.  I do think he'll discuss how some things went down in the past that he didn't necessarily agree with.

 
Bo did not hit his ceiling here and he didn't his his floor.

Yes, Frost would call TO and probably about 5 other people if he was offered the Husker job to get a feel for things and to get some advice/thoughts.  That is normal.  We are talking about a HC gig at a big time school...not a part-time job after school.  sh#t, you should see the amount of phone calls made back and forth for guys interested in HC jobs at the high school level.

 
I stand by my prediction from after last season.  If this season tanks, or next season isn't any better, they let Mike "retire" and bring in Scott Frost.  I truly feel this was the plan all along, just a weird hunch.  Let Scott get 2-3 years as a head coach at a small school, then bring him in here.  Would be a fairly painless transition I think.


Do we even have a QB on the roster capable of running the no-huddle spread? 

 
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