Who should we hire

StPaulHusker said:
This makes me sad for Nebraska
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And all of them coaching significantly less time than Riley.  Dabo, Jimbo, Bob were first time HC's....Tressel at a FCS school.  Those listed are some of the most successful guys in the game.  Something to be said for reaching a high level of success in a short amount of time.  

 
junior4949 said:
I know all of this.  It was simply to illustrate just how delusional a fan base can be.  The OU faithful wanted Venables gone.  I highly doubt he wanted demoted to become a co-coordinator again.  I'm not a college football coach, and I don't know all the in's and out's of what coordinators do with regards to recruiting.  Davis won the Broyles award when he had Vince Young running his offense.  I don't know how involved Davis was with recruiting to Texas.  I don't think any of this says anything about the Broyles award.  I think it says more about those assistants having the players they needed to run their position group.  We already have fans that have completely given up on Diaco.  I expected some growing pains on defense this year.  However, we will get better this season as the players get more comfortable in his scheme and going forward he will get more of the pieces he needs to run his scheme.
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Bingo, yea I'm no coach either and going from 4-3 to 3-4 is probably going to take some time to get dialed.  I always hope for the best, more will be revealed.  2nd half against Oregon was an improvement.  Hope we continue to improve as the year goes on, we are going to need it. 

 
lo country said:
And all of them coaching significantly less time than Riley.  Dabo, Jimbo, Bob were first time HC's....Tressel at a FCS school.  Those listed are some of the most successful guys in the game.  Something to be said for reaching a high level of success in a short amount of time.  
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Yeah, and whenever we need a new coach, if we hire a first time head coach, everyone will freak out saying how big of a mistake it was that we didn't hire someone with head coaching experience.

 
huskerbronco1997 said:
Who should we hire? Well in all honestly who wants this job? Frost I likely the only one that would say YES. I would imagine everyone else would say well idk maybe it could be neat or hell no. We go through coaches like my kids throUgh shoes. Now I hated the Riley hire and still can't stand him but no coach will want to come here knowing we fired a 9 win coach and went through another one in less than 5 years not even allowing him to use "his guys, for whatever the hell that means" and having just revamped the staff. Most coaches like stability plus other schools will use this against us in recruiting as I am sure they already do. 

Maybe coaches that know that they can get a massive buyout once they suck will consider this place but otherwise if you wise if you would think big names or young up and coming coaches would be interested (besides Frost), but I don't see it. 
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There have numerous teams to go through coaches till they find the right one.

or you can hope and pray that something changes

or you can watch other teams and see how it is supposed to be played

one of those should work

FlipPhone said:
I was amusing myself yesterday and thought maybe wires got crossed and someone said "get Lincoln Riley"... but SE heard, get "Riley to Lincoln"... and he googled Coach Riley and Mike was the name that popped up.  So, you see, this is all from a misunderstanding.
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now thats funny lol

 
olddominionhusker said:
Penn St. and Wisc have both made good coaching hires for their programs over the past years. It's that simple. We have not and now it's not a matter of continuing what an Osborne, Alvarez or Paterno(football performance only obviously) built. You have a short window to keep that ball rolling after a legend retires before you become just another program.  Tennessee was in the wilderness for a long time as well. Florida made what looked like a few solid hires which have not worked out thus far. And they are both in prime recruit land. Jesus look at Texas. This sh#t isn't easy, and luck plays a much bigger role in landing "The Guy" then people want to admit

Nebraska is a no different then any middling program at this point. The wins were too long ago. Current recruits weren't born when we were last relevant. So now we are in the position where we have to get a home run hire. 

In my opinion that will be a young coach who is probably under the radar right now because no big name coach is coming here. It's just not a desirable job at this point
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ODH,

I agree with you that finding a good coach isn't easy, but Fraklin at PSU made sense, Andersen made sense, Chryst made sense. From a fundamental common sense standpoint, and by most measurable levels, these guys all made sense. You could defend the hiring of each.

We went out and hired a guy who has never had ANY consistent, appreciable, worthwhile success ANYWHERE he has ever been. Let that sink in.

He spent 4 years as a HC in the CFL, his winning percentage? .556

He spent 2 years as a HC in the WLAF, his winning percentage? .550

He spent 3 years as a HC in the NFL, his winning percentage? .292

He spent 14 years as a HC for OSU, his winning percentage? .542

This hire made absolutely zero sense, and quite possibly represents the peak of ineptitude by our aa.

Of course we can't fire Riley now, the optics of such would be horrible. As disgusted as I am at our Athletic Administration, I am sane enough to realize firing Riley is not an option.

For better or worse, we are stuck with Riley, and can only hope that Eichorst or his replacement doesn't bungle the next hiring decision...

 
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Landlord said:
Yeah, and whenever we need a new coach, if we hire a first time head coach, everyone will freak out saying how big of a mistake it was that we didn't hire someone with head coaching experience.
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That's the problem.  There is no exact science to it.  You hire a guy with success from program A and he moves to program B and tanks....Think Rich Rod.  Or you get an average coach who turns a program around.  Think Fuentes/McElwain.  

IMHO, if you look at guys who have "turned around/are turning it around, their impact is felt in the first few years.  Most appear to be in year 2-3.  Their body of work is almost a much smaller snapshot than as Riley.  They've had less "years of success", but a "better" winning percentage throughout those years.  Maybe that's the indicator.  I don't know.  Only spitballing.  We've looked since 2004 and have not had luck.  Maybe this is the year that things click.  Maybe it's next year with another in the 3-4 (from Pro Football Focus and my own eyes and many on the board) we are lacking the talent to make that 3-4 engine go i.e. DE,OLB etc...

All I know, is I want NU to win now. I remember the glory years as well as the times prior when we couldn't beat OU, when we couldn't win a bowl, but even then in hindsight, we were competitive, always ranked, and nationally respected.....

If Riley is the guy, that's great. Because it means the team, state and fans can revel in that success as well. 

 
the question is too open, and should be more specific- Who should we hire for a new AD? is the real question-, because if we do this out of order we'll get another loser , albeit nice, old boob for a coach

 
How do we go 5 pages when we don't even have an opening?  Usually hires occur when there is a new position created or the past employee has vacated the current position....

 
Coaches that I think NU could have gotten with ease if SE didn't have a raging hard-on for Mediocre Mike.  These are not in any order

Campbell (At ISU now)

Franklin (Oh how I wanted him)

Herman

Fuente

Fleck (would have been an easy get 3 years ago but a HUGE gamble at that time)

Brohm

Taggert 

I think any of them would have come to NU and I think they are all better choices than Mediocre Mike.

 
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