Will Rex be a steal?

[HuskerNationNick]

....undervalued for various reasons (skin color)

ummmm.....

I don't think I'm saying anything everyone on here doesn't already know

I disagree.

Be real, if they had a little more melanin they would valued higher. Position typing by race is very real.

As for the second part, you disagree that Rex Burkhead doesn't offer a very unique skill set, or are you just taking the skin color comment out of context?

I don't think his skin color has anything to do with where he is placed at in the draft. If position typing by race was "very real", then why did a white QB go #1, and then a BLACK QB go #2 in the draft last year? No way a Black QB should have gone in the first round, based upon your statement you made. Landry Jones, and every other white QB should have gone before him, since majority of Hall of Famer's and currect QB's are white.

I really hope you don't have this same view out in the real world.

If you wanted to just be honest with yourself for 1 minute, and realize that Rex is just a slightly above average RB and played half of his Senior season due to an injury, had more to do with his draft placement than his color. His character is what sets him above most of those guys. Just because he excelled at more things in a practice combine, doesn't mean he is better than most of them. Eddie Lacey has proven that he is by far, the best RB coming into the combine, but IIRC, Rex outperformed him too.

 

[The Dude]

If I had to make a guess, I would guess he goes to the Patriots. And yes, his skin color factors into my prediction. :lol:

 

[Goal-line]

Will Rex be a steal? Question is, will he get drafted! I think the knee injury is/was a lot worse than folks know about. That will not be overlooked by the NFL. I wish him the best and hope he gets picked by someone. He is a quality human being but that does not get you very far in the NFL draft. Certainly, I would take a chance on him if I were the owner of a pro team.

 

[husker07]

I'm not even going to address the race thing, because I understand what you're saying, but I truly do believe at some positions (WR, RB, CB, and to a lesser extent QB) race plays a factor during the evaluation process, whether conciously or not.

As far as Burkhead, I could give two rips about any drills he did at the combine/pro day. His film validates that he has a versatility to him that is possessed by very few at his position. He has incredible balance and understanding of leverage/angles that will make him invaluable to a team as a third down back, where you can get him 1 on 1 with a LB. He will win that matchup every time. Throw in the fact that he's going to have the playbook down very quickly, he will see the field early and often wherever he goes.

Concerning Lacy, he's vastly overrated. He will be the 2nd best of the Bama backs of recent years, which isn't saying much. Montee Ball is the best traditional running back in this draft, followed by Jonathan Franklin.

 

[HuskerNationNick]

I'm not even going to address the race thing, because I understand what you're saying, but I truly do believe at some positions (WR, RB, CB, and to a lesser extent QB) race plays a factor during the evaluation process, whether conciously or not.

As far as Burkhead, I could give two rips about any drills he did at the combine/pro day. His film validates that he has a versatility to him that is possessed by very few at his position. He has incredible balance and understanding of leverage/angles that will make him invaluable to a team as a third down back, where you can get him 1 on 1 with a LB. He will win that matchup every time. Throw in the fact that he's going to have the playbook down very quickly, he will see the field early and often wherever he goes.

Concerning Lacy, he's vastly overrated. He will be the 2nd best of the Bama backs of recent years, which isn't saying much. Montee Ball is the best traditional running back in this draft, followed by Jonathan Franklin.

Lets just agree to disagree.. Monte Ball couldn't produce if his OL wasn't doing their jobs. Guess what, Burkhead did. Monte Ball is good, but I would take Eddie Lacey over him any day of the week. Not because he is from Alabama or from the Old Might SEC, but because he is the best in this class.

Where ever Burhead goes, I doubt you will see him often, not at least for the first couple years. With all due respect, I think your being a little bias here with your analyse. I am a huge Burkhead supporter, but he is not going to be that "go to guy" right away.

 

[Enhance]

Burkhead's largest problems are his lack of speed and agility. He's got good vision, hands, football sense and a powerful work ethic. But, he doesn't have the shiftiness or speed like most starting NFL backs that come to mind.

I seriously doubt he'll become a go-to guy. He'll be a change-of-pace guy for a few hard-earned yards, but beyond that, I don't think he has the physical traits to be a starting NFL back.

 

[Danimal]

I think he'll be a solid journeyman type like Buckhalter. Never becomes a regular starter but has the combination of abilities that keeps him on teams as the second or third back. I'd imagine he'd be a solid ST's guy too.

 

[zoogs]

There was that great pre-draft breakdown of Burkhead's skills...I think he tested quite well in the COD drills, and I don't have the link anymore, but they focused on his running intelligence and his knowledge of how to make guys miss.

Remember last year's second leading rusher was, I think, a rookie who timed in the 4.7s dash and went undrafted.

That doesn't mean every second tier athlete does this, but Rex has as good a chance as anyone I think. He needs the right opportunity. Rex always had an uncanny ability to break running lanes wide open and gallop downfield, and it wasn't some sensational amount of burst. That same sort of vision and 1-on-1 ability can translate well in the NFL.

Especially as the league is more about passing, teams don't rely on RBs to be gamebreakers anymore, I think. Those are rare. Most teams just want a guy they can count on and doesn't make mistakes.

 

[lo country]

There was that great pre-draft breakdown of Burkhead's skills...I think he tested quite well in the COD drills, and I don't have the link anymore, but they focused on his running intelligence and his knowledge of how to make guys miss.

Remember last year's second leading rusher was, I think, a rookie who timed in the 4.7s dash and went undrafted.

That doesn't mean every second tier athlete does this, but Rex has as good a chance as anyone I think. He needs the right opportunity. Rex always had an uncanny ability to break running lanes wide open and gallop downfield, and it wasn't some sensational amount of burst. That same sort of vision and 1-on-1 ability can translate well in the NFL.

Especially as the league is more about passing, teams don't rely on RBs to be gamebreakers anymore, I think. Those are rare. Most teams just want a guy they can count on and doesn't make mistakes.

Agree. On the tests that more aptly show "football" skills ie cone drill and shuttle, Rex was at the top 5 in all of those drills. Overall, Rex was top 5 in all drills (7 total) except for the 40 and bench press. You do not score that well, against that type of competition and not have the potential to be the featured back.

I have Rex glasses, no doubt, but you cannot discount his on field performance or his combine results. He was a steal and will have success at the next level.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#year=2013&workout=VERTICAL_JUMP&position=RB

 

[Count 'Bility]

I think the NFL is less concerned with that flashy back that can break a long run here and there and more concerned with a back that can find a way to grind out that extra yard or 2 on a consistent basis. The one that turns a 2nd and 7 into a 2 and 5 or a 3rd and 4 into a 3rd and 1. That's Rex to a tee. He has the ability and vision to get that extra 2-3 yards.

 

[kchusker_chris]

I think the NFL is less concerned with that flashy back that can break a long run here and there and more concerned with a back that can find a way to grind out that extra yard or 2 on a consistent basis. The one that turns a 2nd and 7 into a 2 and 5 or a 3rd and 4 into a 3rd and 1. That's Rex to a tee. He has the ability and vision to get that extra 2-3 yards.

I thought that...then watched Dennard Robinson - who is obviously not a RB - go to the Jags in the 5th...as a running back.

 

[Count 'Bility]

I think the NFL is less concerned with that flashy back that can break a long run here and there and more concerned with a back that can find a way to grind out that extra yard or 2 on a consistent basis. The one that turns a 2nd and 7 into a 2 and 5 or a 3rd and 4 into a 3rd and 1. That's Rex to a tee. He has the ability and vision to get that extra 2-3 yards.

I thought that...then watched Dennard Robinson - who is obviously not a RB - go to the Jags in the 5th...as a running back.

But will he wind up being an every down, ground and pound, type of back?

Probably not. Most likely a punt and kick returner and a utility like offensive player, Brad Smith/Kordell Stewart style.

I think anyways.

 

[sd'sker]

I think he tested quite well in the COD drills,

there is a call of duty drill?

 

[kchusker_chris]

I think the NFL is less concerned with that flashy back that can break a long run here and there and more concerned with a back that can find a way to grind out that extra yard or 2 on a consistent basis. The one that turns a 2nd and 7 into a 2 and 5 or a 3rd and 4 into a 3rd and 1. That's Rex to a tee. He has the ability and vision to get that extra 2-3 yards.

I thought that...then watched Dennard Robinson - who is obviously not a RB - go to the Jags in the 5th...as a running back.

But will he wind up being an every down, ground and pound, type of back?

Probably not. Most likely a punt and kick returner and a utility like offensive player, Brad Smith/Kordell Stewart style.

I think anyways.

yeah who knows - everything i've read about this one (only 2-3 articles) discusses him being slotted at RB. Now, with this suspension of this WR yesterday maybe he'll move there. I'm still just dumbfounded how a guy like Dennard can go before Burkhead if he's truly going to be a RB. Granted he's a little more versitle...but at the NFL level Rex is about as good of a QB, and far more reliable from an injury standpoint. Dennard will last 3 games tops.

 

[HuskerNationNick]

I still don't believe Rex to be a "steal". He went exactly where I thought he would. He won't be that starting RB anytime soon, and if he does become that, it will be because of depth issues. Rex isn't that every down back at the next level. Sure he did great things at Nebraska on the field, but the talent level is far more superior at the next level. He isn't going against weak, little rush defenses. It will be interesting how he does in the NFL, and I really hope he proves me wrong. I just don't see it.