Would Tommy play QB in the NFL if ...

[Mavric]

I'm surprised so many people just dismiss this question with a simple "no". Sure, I have my doubts as to whether Tommy could improve his passing skills to equal those of Joey Ganz. (The premise is pretty unlikely.) Ganz was accurate (65%) and didn't throw too many picks over his career (18/585 or a pick out of every 32.5 passes). But if Tommy did improve his passing skills to equal those of Ganz, I can't imagine that he'd go undrafted. Seems like he'd be a shoo in to make a roster somewhere. Especially given the number of athletic QBs in the NFL these days.

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The problem is his mechanics - his footwork in particular - are so poor that he simply can not be a consistent thrower. His completion percentage is low and the NFL is a completion percentage league. The other thing - and it's probably related - is TA isn't a precision passer. That is, even when he completes passes, he's not hitting receivers on the move often enough. The passes are high, low or behind the receivers so they can't catch it on the run. You saw a lot of that in the Michigan State game where he almost got Westy killed a couple times and both Reilly and Carter have saved picks the last two games by taking the ball away from a DB who was in better position than the receiver. Also, the random throw up a punt decision every now and then won't fly for a second.

I know the premise of you question is "what if he improves." But TA's problem is the mechanical issues are so ingrained they simply can't be fixed. I could tell from his first start and it's still the same to this day.

 

[NUance]

I'm surprised so many people just dismiss this question with a simple "no". Sure, I have my doubts as to whether Tommy could improve his passing skills to equal those of Joey Ganz. (The premise is pretty unlikely.) Ganz was accurate (65%) and didn't throw too many picks over his career (18/585 or a pick out of every 32.5 passes). But if Tommy did improve his passing skills to equal those of Ganz, I can't imagine that he'd go undrafted. Seems like he'd be a shoo in to make a roster somewhere. Especially given the number of athletic QBs in the NFL these days.

:

The problem is his mechanics - his footwork in particular - are so poor that he simply can not be a consistent thrower. His completion percentage is low and the NFL is a completion percentage league. The other thing - and it's probably related - is TA isn't a precision passer. That is, even when he completes passes, he's not hitting receivers on the move often enough. The passes are high, low or behind the receivers so they can't catch it on the run. You saw a lot of that in the Michigan State game where he almost got Westy killed a couple times and both Reilly and Carter have saved picks the last two games by taking the ball away from a DB who was in better position than the receiver. Also, the random throw up a punt decision every now and then won't fly for a second.

I know the premise of you question is "what if he improves." But TA's problem is the mechanical issues are so ingrained they simply can't be fixed. I could tell from his first start and it's still the same to this day.

What I see in Tommy is a QB with physical skills for running the ball that are almost unknown in the NFL. I made a comparison to Tim Tebow above and people pooh-poohed it. But think about it. Tommy is a shade smaller than Tebow. But I think he's a step faster too. Both can lower their shoulder and deliver a block or push for that extra yard. I think Tommy could outrun a lot of NFL LBs, not all, but a lot of them. I don't think Tebow could.

So I see Tommy lacking two things (maybe three) that would make him an almost ideal NFL quarter back. First, increased accuracy in passing. Second, decision making--that is, not forcing throws that end up as picks, and knowing when to run versus when to take a sack. And third, possibly an inch or two of height. Is Tommy going to gain the passing skills necessary to make it in the NFL? Well, sure it *could* happen. But at this point in his career it's about as likely as him gaining that extra inch or two of height.

 

[Hayseed]

... he becomes as accurate as Joe Ganz, and has as low of an interception percentage? (Ganz: 65% completion. 18 picks out of 585 passes)

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Or maybe I should rephrase the question: What existing (or past) NFL quarterback would Tommy compare to if he becomes as accurate and throws as few picks as Ganz?

Did Ganz play in the NFL? I think Tommy would have to go see the Wizard, take the witches broom with him, and get some kind of magical transformation to have any chance at playing QB in the NFL. Dual-threat QB's usually don't play in the NFL....even our best dual-threats haven't made it. Better to try what Frosty did, learn to be a really good safety.

 

[NUance]

... he becomes as accurate as Joe Ganz, and has as low of an interception percentage? (Ganz: 65% completion. 18 picks out of 585 passes)

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Or maybe I should rephrase the question: What existing (or past) NFL quarterback would Tommy compare to if he becomes as accurate and throws as few picks as Ganz?

Did Ganz play in the NFL? I think Tommy would have to go see the Wizard, take the witches broom with him, and get some kind of magical transformation to have any chance at playing QB in the NFL. Dual-threat QB's usually don't play in the NFL....even our best dual-threats haven't made it. Better to try what Frosty did, learn to be a really good safety.

Maybe I should start a thread asking whether Ganz would have made the NFL if he had been as big, strong and fast as Tommy.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

I was honestly surprised Ganz didn't get a shot as an NFL back-up or practice squad QB, maybe play a bit of Canadian ball.

Zac Taylor also looked like a lot of guys who come off the bench as NFL caretaker QBs, turning in a couple competent quarters or games before fading into obscurity.

And there are the monster QBs who put up incredible passing numbers in college. But you have to dip down the list to find the truly great NFL QBs.

(SORRY, IT WAS ORIGINALLY IN A NICE, VERTICAL LIST FORM)

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[Mavric]

So I see Tommy lacking two things (maybe three) that would make him an almost ideal NFL quarter back. First, increased accuracy in passing. Second, decision making--that is, not forcing throws that end up as picks, and knowing when to run versus when to take a sack. And third, possibly an inch or two of height. Is Tommy going to gain the passing skills necessary to make it in the NFL? Well, sure it *could* happen. But at this point in his career it's about as likely as him gaining that extra inch or two of height.

Yes - that is, he's lacking the two traits that are far-and-away the MOST important traits of playing QB in the NFL.

 

[Enhance]

I was honestly surprised Ganz didn't get a shot as an NFL back-up or practice squad QB, maybe play a bit of Canadian ball.

Zac Taylor also looked like a lot of guys who come off the bench as NFL caretaker QBs, turning in a couple competent quarters or games before fading into obscurity.

And there are the monster QBs who put up incredible passing numbers in college. But you have to dip down the list to find the truly great NFL QBs.

Just goes to show the NFL is a different beast. Not only great college QB's not making it in the NFL, but the flip side is who would've expected Tom Brady to win four titles when he was drafted out of Michigan?

I don't remember a whole hell of a lot about Ganz/Taylor and their draft profiles but I'm assuming arm strength was one of their biggest knocks.

 

[Hayseed]

... he becomes as accurate as Joe Ganz, and has as low of an interception percentage? (Ganz: 65% completion. 18 picks out of 585 passes)

===================

Or maybe I should rephrase the question: What existing (or past) NFL quarterback would Tommy compare to if he becomes as accurate and throws as few picks as Ganz?

Did Ganz play in the NFL? I think Tommy would have to go see the Wizard, take the witches broom with him, and get some kind of magical transformation to have any chance at playing QB in the NFL. Dual-threat QB's usually don't play in the NFL....even our best dual-threats haven't made it. Better to try what Frosty did, learn to be a really good safety.

Maybe I should start a thread asking whether Ganz would have made the NFL if he had been as big, strong and fast as Tommy.

That would make more sense because Joe is a gamer and with more physical skills would be the Favre type that a lot of NFL teams are looking for.

 

[husker07]

Tommy misses wide open crossing routes with no pressure about 50% of the time. His accuracy is laughably bad, in college, in a system conducive to easy throws, with good wide receivers. I'm not even sure if he is even an above average college quarterback.

 

[Kiyoat Husker]

Not to take this thread off topic, but.....

Taking this thread off topic:

At what position do you guys think TA has the best shot at an NFL roster?

I have read in this thread: WR, RB, HB, LB. Probably not tall enough for a TE. Maybe not fast enough for CB. Safetly? I think J Lord played Safety in the NFL for a few seasons.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

Tommy misses wide open crossing routes with no pressure about 50% of the time. His accuracy is laughably bad, in college, in a system conducive to easy throws, with good wide receivers. I'm not even sure if he is even an above average college quarterback.

Tommy's not going to the pros, but he remains a dangerous college quarterback. I mean, he IS the Big 10 Total Offense Leader. I am certain he makes the DC nervous every week.

I think we may be a little hard on his accuracy. This system is no more conducive to easy throws than any other. It's about the decisions Tommy makes. He completes a perfectly reasonable number of easy throws, completes a surprising number of dangerous throws, and has plenty of beautiful throws, caught perfectly in stride. But he loses those crucial 10 percentage points on passes that he was in no position to throw, but chucked anyway. Because his receivers have been making miracle catches, and because Tommy has led miracle comebacks, I'm not sure you can talk him out of the habit or convince him his footwork is a problem.

 

[cornographic]

I could play in the NFL if I improved my arm strength, grew 6 inches and could read NFL defenses.

TA will never play QB in the NFL. He may have a shot if he changes positions. He is fast and tough. But there is no way he can read NFL defenses and make good decisions consistently. He also struggles with high percentages passes.

Pretty much agree with this assessment. TA will not be an NFL QB unless something dramatic happens by the end of his tenure @ NU. Don't see it happening. I think he's been a pretty good QB for us, though, albeit the "TMart moments".

 

[junior4949]

I could play in the NFL if I improved my arm strength, grew 6 inches and could read NFL defenses.

TA will never play QB in the NFL. He may have a shot if he changes positions. He is fast and tough. But there is no way he can read NFL defenses and make good decisions consistently. He also struggles with high percentages passes.

See that's the thing, I'm not asking about some Joe Blow who is entirely devoid of the physical tools to play in the NFL. Like you. Or me. I'm asking about Tommy. He's clearly athletic enough. And he has a strong enough arm. He just lacks accuracy. That, and he's prone to force throws that sometimes end up in picks.

So, back to my question: If Tommy could gain some accuracy--say, Ganzesque accuracy--and throw fewer picks, would he play Sundays?

One has to almost assume if a player the age of TA isn't accurate now that he probably never will be. There are a lot of strong armed guys out there that are athletic. Accuracy is what separates them from an NFL QB. Heck, there are strong armed athletic accurate players that don't make it as a NFL QB. The QB position is probably by quantity the largest bust in terms of the draft there is.

 

[NUance]

Not to take this thread off topic, but.....

Taking this thread off topic:

At what position do you guys think TA has the best shot at an NFL roster?

I have read in this thread: WR, RB, HB, LB. Probably not tall enough for a TE. Maybe not fast enough for CB. Safetly? I think J Lord played Safety in the NFL for a few seasons.

Yeah, I'd say safety. That worked out okay for Scott Frost. Jammal Lord played a couple years too, but never saw the field much.

 

[cornographic]

Not to take this thread off topic, but.....

Taking this thread off topic:

At what position do you guys think TA has the best shot at an NFL roster?

I have read in this thread: WR, RB, HB, LB. Probably not tall enough for a TE. Maybe not fast enough for CB. Safetly? I think J Lord played Safety in the NFL for a few seasons.

Yeah, I'd say safety. That worked out okay for Scott Frost. Jammal Lord played a couple years too, but never saw the field much.

I don't think TA has near the mobility or speed to play safety, especially in the NFL. I doubt he gets much of a look by the pros, quite frankly.