Year 2 Regression Under Frost

SouthLincoln Husker said:
Agree.  Our line got better as the year went on.  Our lack of depth might have been our biggest issue.
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That is a bright spot.  Our OL really was solid the last half of the season.  I will agree that the OL made Adrian worse the first half of the season, but i also believe AM made the OL look worse.  It goes both ways.  And in the second half of the season AM had plenty of time...i think he made the OL look worse.  

I love Frost, i am thankful that he is our coach.  I think his greatest attributes are intangibles , like his ability to connect with people.  He is the type of person that will eventually be good at whatever he puts his mind to.  That being said im just very dissapointed in his performannce so far.   Bad playcalling, his refusal to stick with Mills or the run schemes that work like what we ran against Wisconsin or OSU, i dont think he read defenses well at all..why throw so many screens against Iowa? Iowa is not the type of defense that screens work against.  His refusal to play the best QB, (i can understand after 3 or 4 games), but by the last game of the year it was clear what we were gonna get from AM...it was also clear that Luke brought an energy to the team and their wasnt a more picture perfect time than when we had all the momentum in the world tied with Iowa in the second half, after Luke threw the best pass of the day on his only play at QB, and when our offense has never looked bad with Luke out there, he still stuck with Adrian.  That was a back breaker.  I would be willing to bet that Ferentz was very happy that AM came back in instead of Luke.  We had Iowa on the ropes.  It was so clear to see, i would bet my life savings (partly cause its not that big of a bet) on us winning if Luke played the rest of the game.  Putting AM back their took the air right out of the building before he even played one down, and even more so after he went 3 and out time and time again for the rest of the game.  Their are things that are understandable, this decision was not one of them.  This is where, for the first time, i was pissed off at Frost.  Ive been upset, and disagreed with him plenty...but ive never been to the point where i felt downright pissed off at him, until this moment.  I would feel good if he played Luke, we beat Iowa, and can look forward to next year with a passionate baller like Luke leading our team, despite knowing he will make lots of mistakes.

 
HuskerNation1 said:
Matt Rhule is someone that more Husker fans should be talking about.  The guy turned around Temple and had sone wonders at Baylor too.  Baylor was a dumpster fire just a couple seasons ago and he has them soaring high in his 3rd year.  We can potentially debate if Baylor was a bigger turnaround job than Nebraska was, but I think that is the type of outcome we should all expect from Frost and company in his 3rd season.  
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Rhule had 4 more wins in his 2nd year at Temple and an additional 4 wins between his 2nd and 3rd year at Temple. He also had 5 more wins in his 2nd year at Baylor and currently has 4 more wins in year 3 at Baylor. Perhaps he picked the right coordinators and staff to begin with. 

 
I think something to note for the offense is the style we are trying to run and the pieces we had. Frost has sucked inside the opponent's 30 yard line, no doubt about it. But the bigger picture of stats is being compared to other teams and offenses is dumb. If he ran an offense that ate up the clock and ran most the time, there would be less b!^@hing. This offense you have to have horses, we don't have enough of them. 3 n outs come a lot more quickly in this offense. I think a lot more points are on the horizon. 

 
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The numbers McClintock cited line up with the data I gathered when comparing Nebraska to common competition in 2018 vs 2019. In reality the 2018 offense may have overperformed while the 2018 defense underwhelmed, so seeing the offense take a step back from a good 2018 and the 2019 defense make a marginal improvement from a poor 2018 season does little to answer this question:

Is the Nebraska program where many fans expected it to be after 2 full seasons with Frost as the head coach?

Another important question is now looming:

What does the 2020 team need to do to keep faith in Frost and his staff (assuming Frost retains his entire staff for a 3rd season)?

 


Let's be fair, here....

Baylor was blessed to not get something of a very stiff NCAA violation with all the crap that went down under Briles and Ken Starr.

They weren't going to be stupid and run a coach after coming off a mess like that.

Oh, look at that:

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Co-Coordinators?!?  BLASPHEMY!  And Glenn Thomas was his o-Coordinator at Temple!  He was DEMOTED!

:laughpound

 
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9 wins and 15 losses yet lots of 3 and 4-star players.  Plus fairly easy schedule.  2020 ... watched out !!! Good chance no bowl, again.

And I'm sick and tired "Next Year" .... year after year.

Need to bounce $cott's pay stub.

BTW, please remove jersey patch ..... 
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Q. Specifically, how far do you expect your quarterback play with Adrian Martinez to be compared to where it was a year ago with everything he learned last year?

SCOTT FROST: Yeah, I wouldn't trade our guy for anybody in the country at that position, at the quarterback position.
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2019 Media Days in Chicago.

And August, 2019 - “We're better than we were a year ago ...... light years ahead” (Scott Frost).  Unfortunately, black hole.

 
So where are we?

We got our dream hire.  We got the guy most of the other top programs looking for new leadership wanted in 2017.  We got a home grown guy.  We got a guy who HAS won a natty, here in dear old Nebraska!

So two years in, we are 9-15.  We haven't sniffed a bowl game since Mike Riley was our coach.  We haven't beaten Iowa in 5 tries.  We lost our home and home to "rival" Colorado.  We aren't gaining any ground in recruiting yet.  We aren't any better off than we were when he got here.

So what does it mean?  Does it mean Riley sunk us even more than we thought possible?  Maybe a little.  Does it mean the rest of the conference is that much further ahed of us?  Maybe a few teams, definitely not most of them.  Does it mean Frost isn't as good as we thought?  Unfortunately, that might be it.

Fact of the matter is, he hasn't exactly blown any of us away yet with teally anything he's done.  Recruiting is about the same.  We barely improved record wise this year.  And so far his game management has been fairly suspect in many crucial situations in must win games.  Let's face it, he had a perfect storm at UCF.  He inherited a team with talent that wasn't well oiled.  He got them oiled quickly.  Plus he didn't have to look far for new players.  And the league he was coaching in was ripe for the picking.  When he left he had built something.  But it wasn't the Boise State story some expected.

Truth is, he is still a coach learning the ropes.  We can't forget that.  He has a total 4 seasons under his belt as a head coach now.  He will undoubtedly get better.  And this team, it's going to get better.  I expect we take that year 2 leap a year late in year 3 and a much better one in year 4.  I'm trying to be patient because I have no choice.  I'm sick of saying next year.  It makes me sick.  5 years of absolutely putrid football.  It needs to improve damned soon.

 
Redux said:
So where are we?

We got our dream hire.  We got the guy most of the other top programs looking for new leadership wanted in 2017.  We got a home grown guy.  We got a guy who HAS won a natty, here in dear old Nebraska!

So two years in, we are 9-15.  We haven't sniffed a bowl game since Mike Riley was our coach.  We haven't beaten Iowa in 5 tries.  We lost our home and home to "rival" Colorado.  We aren't gaining any ground in recruiting yet.  We aren't any better off than we were when he got here.

So what does it mean?  Does it mean Riley sunk us even more than we thought possible?  Maybe a little.  Does it mean the rest of the conference is that much further ahed of us?  Maybe a few teams, definitely not most of them.  Does it mean Frost isn't as good as we thought?  Unfortunately, that might be it.

Fact of the matter is, he hasn't exactly blown any of us away yet with teally anything he's done.  Recruiting is about the same.  We barely improved record wise this year.  And so far his game management has been fairly suspect in many crucial situations in must win games.  Let's face it, he had a perfect storm at UCF.  He inherited a team with talent that wasn't well oiled.  He got them oiled quickly.  Plus he didn't have to look far for new players.  And the league he was coaching in was ripe for the picking.  When he left he had built something.  But it wasn't the Boise State story some expected.

Truth is, he is still a coach learning the ropes.  We can't forget that.  He has a total 4 seasons under his belt as a head coach now.  He will undoubtedly get better.  And this team, it's going to get better.  I expect we take that year 2 leap a year late in year 3 and a much better one in year 4.  I'm trying to be patient because I have no choice.  I'm sick of saying next year.  It makes me sick.  5 years of absolutely putrid football.  It needs to improve damned soon.
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I think there's a good chance you're way off in your assessment of recruiting.

 
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