Douschebag Hall of Fame

[Redux]

Tell me, say we hire Frost at the end of this season. He goes 4-8 in 2016 and 6-6 in 2017.

Are you still all in with bells on?

I'd probably lose the bells, but I would probably still be in. Depends a lot on other details to say for sure.
If Frost comes in next season, that means Riley must've lost out or gone 3-9 at best. So, 4-8 in 2016 would be an improvement and 6-6 would be another improvement. I wouldn't be happy about it, but at least he's not going backwards.

So really, it's more along the lines of you wanting Frost here and not Riley. Records aren't what you are concerned with here.

Huh? I just explained that improvement in record would keep me on board with Frost. With Riley, we're seeing the opposite. So W/L records are exactly what I'm concerned with.
See, a W/L record of 9-3 followed by a 3-9 is not "improvement". The ones outlined in my response are at least small improvements.

Mike Riley didn't go 9-3 here last year. And we don't know what his record this year will be.You can not use the former coaches last record to compare the new coaches first record, you just can't.

Well, I guess you can, but that would be assinine.

I feel like I'm getting stupid through osmosis just by responding to your posts. So carry on without me. HAND

Don't go blaming osmosis for your stupidity.
HAND

 

[GBRedneck]

To everyone who wants Scott Frost to come here as HC. It would literally be the same thing when we hired Bo. The guy has zero experience running a program. And now without a QB like Mariotta he's on the hot seat.

Funny that you tout experience with Sub500's results so far.

So you know for sure that Frost would have us above .500?

WTF did I type that would make you think that?

All I know is that comparing 1st time head coaches to experienced coaches during the last 60 years of Husker history, the 1st timers come out WAAAAAAAY on top. And that's even with including the Bobfather in the experienced group!

Oh, and as to your hotseat comment concerning Frost, you might want to re-eavaluate that one. Oregon is currently #10 in the country in Total Offense and #9 in Scoring Offense. OCs don't usually get put on the hotseat just because the defense sucks.

 

[NUance]

To everyone who wants Scott Frost to come here as HC. It would literally be the same thing when we hired Bo. The guy has zero experience running a program. And now without a QB like Mariotta he's on the hot seat.

Funny that you tout experience with Sub500's results so far.

So you know for sure that Frost would have us above .500?

WTF did I type that would make you think that?

All I know is that comparing 1st time head coaches to experienced coaches during the last 60 years of Husker history, the 1st timers come out WAAAAAAAY on top. And that's even with including the Bobfather in the experienced group!

Oh, and as to your hotseat comment concerning Frost, you might want to re-eavaluate that one. Oregon is currently #10 in the country in Total Offenses and #9 in Scoring Offense. OCs don't usually get put on the hotseat just because the defense sucks.

I wonder if the result would be the same if we didn't have perhaps the most successful first time coach in the history of college football taking up 26 of those 60 years? I wonder what the data would say if you looked at the first time coaches of all programs during that 60 period, versus experienced coaches?

 

[Redux]

To everyone who wants Scott Frost to come here as HC. It would literally be the same thing when we hired Bo. The guy has zero experience running a program. And now without a QB like Mariotta he's on the hot seat.

Funny that you tout experience with Sub500's results so far.

So you know for sure that Frost would have us above .500?

WTF did I type that would make you think that?
All I know is that comparing 1st time head coaches to experienced coaches during the last 60 years of Husker history, the 1st timers come out WAAAAAAAY on top. And that's even with including the Bobfather in the experienced group!

Oh, and as to your hotseat comment concerning Frost, you might want to re-eavaluate that one. Oregon is currently #10 in the country in Total Offense and #9 in Scoring Offense. OCs don't usually get put on the hotseat just because the defense sucks.

1- You serious?

2- You serious?

3- Their fans are calling for his head. Guess stupidity lives in every fanbase.

 

[GBRedneck]

To everyone who wants Scott Frost to come here as HC. It would literally be the same thing when we hired Bo. The guy has zero experience running a program. And now without a QB like Mariotta he's on the hot seat.

Funny that you tout experience with Sub500's results so far.

So you know for sure that Frost would have us above .500?

WTF did I type that would make you think that?

All I know is that comparing 1st time head coaches to experienced coaches during the last 60 years of Husker history, the 1st timers come out WAAAAAAAY on top. And that's even with including the Bobfather in the experienced group!

Oh, and as to your hotseat comment concerning Frost, you might want to re-eavaluate that one. Oregon is currently #10 in the country in Total Offenses and #9 in Scoring Offense. OCs don't usually get put on the hotseat just because the defense sucks.

I wonder if the result would be the same if we didn't have perhaps the most successful first time coach in the history of college football taking up 26 of those 60 years? I wonder what the data would say if you looked at the first time coaches of all programs during that 60 period, versus experienced coaches?

Take out Osborne and just look at Solich and Pelini. How many 1st time coaches did better than those two in their first 6 or 7 years?

It would also be interesting to see how many new hires with prior HC experience did better than Frank or Bo in their first six years at a new gig. I bet it's a pretty tiny group. Saban, Meyer and who else?

 

[RedRedJarvisRedwine]

To everyone who wants Scott Frost to come here as HC. It would literally be the same thing when we hired Bo. The guy has zero experience running a program. And now without a QB like Mariotta he's on the hot seat.

Funny that you tout experience with Sub500's results so far.

So you know for sure that Frost would have us above .500?

WTF did I type that would make you think that?
All I know is that comparing 1st time head coaches to experienced coaches during the last 60 years of Husker history, the 1st timers come out WAAAAAAAY on top. And that's even with including the Bobfather in the experienced group!

Oh, and as to your hotseat comment concerning Frost, you might want to re-eavaluate that one. Oregon is currently #10 in the country in Total Offenses and #9 in Scoring Offense. OCs don't usually get put on the hotseat just because the defense sucks.

I wonder if the result would be the same if we didn't have perhaps the most successful first time coach in the history of college football taking up 26 of those 60 years? I wonder what the data would say if you looked at the first time coaches of all programs during that 60 period, versus experienced coaches?

Take out Osborne and just look at Solich and Pelini. How many 1st time coaches did better than those two in their first 6 or 7 years?

At Nebraska or anywheres? My HS coach went like 50 something and 8 in his first 5 seasons. Got fired for being an Ahole to the principle. Hashtag hashtag

 

[GBRedneck]

To everyone who wants Scott Frost to come here as HC. It would literally be the same thing when we hired Bo. The guy has zero experience running a program. And now without a QB like Mariotta he's on the hot seat.

Funny that you tout experience with Sub500's results so far.

So you know for sure that Frost would have us above .500?

WTF did I type that would make you think that?
All I know is that comparing 1st time head coaches to experienced coaches during the last 60 years of Husker history, the 1st timers come out WAAAAAAAY on top. And that's even with including the Bobfather in the experienced group!

Oh, and as to your hotseat comment concerning Frost, you might want to re-eavaluate that one. Oregon is currently #10 in the country in Total Offenses and #9 in Scoring Offense. OCs don't usually get put on the hotseat just because the defense sucks.

I wonder if the result would be the same if we didn't have perhaps the most successful first time coach in the history of college football taking up 26 of those 60 years? I wonder what the data would say if you looked at the first time coaches of all programs during that 60 period, versus experienced coaches?

Take out Osborne and just look at Solich and Pelini. How many 1st time coaches did better than those two in their first 6 or 7 years?

At Nebraska or anywheres? My HS coach went like 50 something and 8 in his first 5 seasons. Got fired for being an Ahole to the principle. Hashtag hashtag

I mean 1st time D1 NCAA head coaches.

 

[Redux]

So, you are insinuating that since Frank and Bo were both 1st time head coaches and won around 9 games a year, that is proof huring Frost would be our best option?

 

[GBRedneck]

So, you are insinuating that since Frank and Bo were both 1st time head coaches and won around 9 games a year, that is proof huring Frost would be our best option?

No, I'm pointing out the irrationality of your idea that hiring someone with experience is inherently better than hiring a first timer.

 

[NUance]

So, you are insinuating that since Frank and Bo were both 1st time head coaches and won around 9 games a year, that is proof huring Frost would be our best option?

No, I'm pointing out the irrationality of your idea that hiring someone with experience is inherently better than hiring a first timer.

So coaches actually get worse with experience then. Because all coaches with experience were first timers at the start of their careers.

 

[GBRedneck]

So, you are insinuating that since Frank and Bo were both 1st time head coaches and won around 9 games a year, that is proof huring Frost would be our best option?

No, I'm pointing out the irrationality of your idea that hiring someone with experience is inherently better than hiring a first timer.

So coaches actually get worse with experience then. Because all coaches with experience were first timers at the start of their careers.

 

[Redux]

So, you are insinuating that since Frank and Bo were both 1st time head coaches and won around 9 games a year, that is proof huring Frost would be our best option?

No, I'm pointing out the irrationality of your idea that hiring someone with experience is inherently better than hiring a first timer.

There is no guarantee that a first timer or a couple decades of experience will succeed or fail.

What I do know though is that if Scott Forst hadn't played for Nebraska, his name would scarcely come up as a candidate to coach here.

 

[Landlord]

There's no evidence that a first time head coach will be any better or worse than an experienced head coach.

Hiring Frost would be the same thing as when we hired Bo, you're right. But it would also be the same thing as hiring Bob Stoops at Oklahoma, or Kevin Sumlin at Texas A&M, or Chip Kelly at Oregon, or Gus Malzahn at Auburn, or Chris Petersen at Boise State, or Barry Switzer at Oklahoma, or Larry Coker at Miami.

Yep. Those are all the same thing in that they're coaches who had no experience running a program before they got hired.

 

[StPaulHusker]

There's no evidence that a first time head coach will be any better or worse than an experienced head coach.

Hiring Frost would be the same thing as when we hired Bo, you're right. But it would also be the same thing as hiring Bob Stoops at Oklahoma, or Kevin Sumlin at Texas A&M, or Chip Kelly at Oregon, or Gus Malzahn at Auburn, or Chris Petersen at Boise State, or Barry Switzer at Oklahoma, or Larry Coker at Miami.

Yep. Those are all the same thing in that they're coaches who had no experience running a program before they got hired.

Sumlin and Malzahn were both HC's at mid level schools before their current gigs at P5 schools

Stoops is somewhat of an enigma in the game

And there is something to be said about the other coaches you named. Kelly, Peterson, Switzer and Coker all got their first HC job after being a coordinator at the same school

 

[Redux]

Scott Frost coming here to replace Riley is not even close to the same thing as a Chip Kelly being groomed to take Belotti's reigns.