***2016 Recruiting***

If you literally do not tell the coachiing staff of the school you have been offered by that you intend to come there and wait until NSD, you are being very foolish in my view. You literally risk not having a scholarship at all. If I am a coach and I would like a given player to join my team and accept my scholarship offer, I would want a decision yes or no long before the last day. Obviously, you are building a class of recruits presumably to fit your needs. If a player refuses to commit, then it is really 'ify' as to whether he even wants to play for you. I think if you get many signees who announce on NSD, you are probably not doing a good job reruiting. You want talent but you also MUST have guys who want to play for you as well. It must be equally and mutually beneficial. Also, I believe a player should have a darn good idea where he is going to go to college long before Februay of the year he enrolls. He should have researched the degrees, hours, campus, costs, admission, etc. If he cares at all about education, the student should be choosing a school as much as he is choosing a team to play for.

 
If you literally do not tell the coachiing staff of the school you have been offered by that you intend to come there and wait until NSD, you are being very foolish in my view. You literally risk not having a scholarship at all. If I am a coach and I would like a given player to join my team and accept my scholarship offer, I would want a decision yes or no long before the last day. Obviously, you are building a class of recruits presumably to fit your needs. If a player refuses to commit, then it is really 'ify' as to whether he even wants to play for you. I think if you get many signees who announce on NSD, you are probably not doing a good job reruiting. You want talent but you also MUST have guys who want to play for you as well. It must be equally and mutually beneficial. Also, I believe a player should have a darn good idea where he is going to go to college long before Februay of the year he enrolls. He should have researched the degrees, hours, campus, costs, admission, etc. If he cares at all about education, the student should be choosing a school as much as he is choosing a team to play for.
That's sort of my point.

And...why I said the only real logical reason to wait till NSD is if he is sort of a silent commit to one school and waiting to see if his absolute dream school opens up a spot.

I'm not saying any of these guys are doing that. It's just the only logical explanation I can see.

For which....I constantly go back to.....We are dealing with 18 year old kids who sometimes don't always do logical things and sometimes aren't able to make informed decisions with confidence.

 
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Many of these kids have decided well before NSD, but want to announce it on NSD. No harm, no foul. Most of the top prospects wait until NSD to sign bc they have the most options and the most leverage to choose exactly where they want to go. We as fans get mad at kids for flip flopping on their commitment, but then we want them to decide before a certain date or they are primma donnas. Please commit early but not too early and please wait until you are sure where you want to go, but dont wait too long. If the kids wants to wait until SIgning Day then so be it. 99% of the time the coaches and players are all on the same page before NSD and there arent any surprises.

 
I met a guy a month or so ago that played Div 1 basketball in the late 70s and coached for a while in college. He quit because he hated recruiting and having so much of his job dependent on decisions 18 year old kids make.

I can understand why.

 
Many of these kids have decided well before NSD, but want to announce it on NSD. No harm, no foul. Most of the top prospects wait until NSD to sign bc they have the most options and the most leverage to choose exactly where they want to go. We as fans get mad at kids for flip flopping on their commitment, but then we want them to decide before a certain date or they are primma donnas. Please commit early but not too early and please wait until you are sure where you want to go, but dont wait too long. If the kids wants to wait until SIgning Day then so be it. 99% of the time the coaches and players are all on the same page before NSD and there arent any surprises.
Yep

 
That's the point. You don't see the 3 stars waiting until NSD. You see the top recruits waiting.

Rashan Gary is the #1 overall recruit this year. He'll be announcing (hasn't told any coaches) on NSD. Is he risking losing his spot? No. No one is going to tell him "sorry bud, we're full". They'll make room.

Then, in today's society, it becomes an ego thing. Some kids are too good to be told no, and they are safe. Some kids think they are too good to be told no, and that's when it starts to be funny.

 
OK....going into the last few weeks of recruiting. Here is what I was able to gather from various recruit's threads on their planned announcement schedule.

Butler. Jan 20th

Jackson Jan 28th

Farniok (probably) week of Jan 25-29

Sails visit weekend of 29-30 and announce after that.

Fitzpatrick Feb 1stI.

Simmons NSD

Watts NSD

Ivey ????

Newman ????

Reese ???

Who am I missing that we are hot after and possibly have an idea of their time table?

Edited to add a couple and to put into some form of chronological order.
Updated for Butlers announcement.

 
I hope the coaches have some good contingency plans in place because I have zero confidence in these near-signing day announcements
Not sure why.

We will not get all of them. But, we should get some of them. Just not sure who.
What if they only land 2 of those 10 or so guys you listed. That would leave quite a few spots open wouldn't it? And that's assuming no decommits.

 
I hope the coaches have some good contingency plans in place because I have zero confidence in these near-signing day announcements
Not sure why.

We will not get all of them. But, we should get some of them. Just not sure who.
What if they only land 2 of those 10 or so guys you listed. That would leave quite a few spots open wouldn't it? And that's assuming no decommits.
Why do you have such a pessimistic view that we are only going to land 2 out of 10?

 
Butler. Jan 20th .8650

Jackson Jan 28th .9524
Farniok (probably) week of Jan 25-29 .9055
Sails visit weekend of 29-30 and announce after that. .8653
Fitzpatrick Feb 1st .9069
Simmons NSD .8913
Watts NSD .8618
Ivey ???? .8622
Newman ???? .8896
Reese ??? .8669

Average player rating of those ten is .8867.

That's higher than our average rating right now and we have a decent rating already. I think it's reasonably possible to get 5 out of ten. So, let's assume we get 5 players that are the average in the group. Add 5 players at .8867 to our already rating of .8702 and we have 20 pretty good players. Actually, it would be .8743 which is pretty dang good compared to what it was in 2005 when everything thought we had a fantastic recruiting class. It only had an average player rating of .8523. Mix a few last minute players in and we still have a pretty decent class and we probably will still have a better rating than the 2005 number 5 class in the nation.

Edited to add data.

 
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