OWH: Outgoing UNL Chancellor Harvey Perlman leaves with unmet goal: Huskers’ return to top

[StPaulHusker]

If you think that the B10, and especially the west, is tougher today than when we joined, I have a bridge to sell you.

Our division is easier, but the conference as a whole is markedly better than 2011.

In 2011:

Nebraska was 9-4

Iowa was 7-6

Northwestern was 6-7

Wisconsin was 11-3

Minnesota was 3-9

Purdue was 7-6

Illinois was 7-6

Thats 50-41

This past year:

Nebraska was 6-7

Iowa was 12-2

Northwestern was 10-3

Wisconsin was 10-3

Minnesota was 6-7

Purdue was 2-10

Illinois was 5-7

Thats 52-39

It appears they were about the same

The divisional alignments were different in 2011 though. Our current west alignment is way easier than the old Legends division. That absolutely affects the teams records. For instance, 2011 Bucky would have annihilated the 2015 version. Plus, it's almost universally agreed upon that the B1G is much better than it was a few years ago.

You are going to have to do better than that to say 2015 West is WAY easier than 2011 Legends. I'm not buying it at all.

 

[cm husker]

It's amusing to me that Perlman would invoke respect for Osborne's legacy while also justifying the idiocy of firing Frank in '03 and later Bo for "not winning the games that matter."

Well, Bo absolutely did not win the games that mattered so what's your point?
Yea Frank probably should not have been fired, but how can anyone still defend Bo? He told you to go F*ck yourself. Bo was an embarrassment, he had a terrible petulant temper, and he could not win the games that mattered.

Harvey's greatest achievement was Sh*t canning ole BO. I commend Harvey for that endeavor.

I don't think Bo ever said "Throwing Bones, go ____ yourself." But maybe I missed that Omaha/Journalstar article.

Obviously he didn't use your HB name, or your RL name but he did tell the fans to go F themselves, and if you're a fan (I'm assuming you are since you are here posting) that applies to you as well.

He told fans who booed his players to go f#*k themselves. And I echo his sentiments.

The fans should cheer the team off the field at halftime every time. It doesn't matter that we were down 20-6 and being outgained 246 to 117 by an unranked team. Or that NU was coming off a game the week before where they were beat down 48-17.

And if I had to guess, I would say the boos were aimed at Bo and staff.

I know you want to rationalize it all away, but in reality those fans started booing when TM came back in (not unlike what happened to Frost at one point). They had ripped him all week. Very harshly. To the extent that guys like Burkhead felt the need to speak out in his defense.
There's a big difference between booing and simply sitting silently.

That's why I'll never blame players much for a "us against them" attitude. Husker fans can be among the harshest out there when it comes to criticizing their own. Probably because so many have a sense of entitlement related to a self aggrandizement about being the best in the country. Who knows.

Huh? Where did TM go in the OSU game that he had to come back in? Do you mean he was booed when he started the game?

Booed when he was sent back out for a series in the second quarter.
I recommend you simply educate yourself on this topic. The reports are there outlining it.

Please show me where Taylor was booed in the 2Q. I was at the game. I don't recall it.

It's on YouTube I'm sure. It was immediately after he threw an interception as he came off the field. That's when Bo gave his famous card wave at the booers.

Yup. There were grumbles after he threw that pick with :15 in the 2Q. Nebraska didn't run another play in the 2Q after that, so he couldn't have been booed when he came back out in the 2Q. And he wasn't booed when he came back out to start the 3Q.

"Grumbles"
That's funny. You're a funny guy.

Thank you!
But I still am not seeing where Taylor was booed when he came back in the game?

I was going off memory. Thought it was when he came back in. Point is, he was booed (and skewered all week). And Bo reacted to that. It will be interesting to see how Riley reacts when fans boo Huskers in the future.

I had no problem with Bo's reaction.

 

[Red Dead Redemption]

It will be interesting to see how Riley reacts when fans boo Huskers in the future.

"You don't get no ice creeeeeeeeeeeam!"

 

[knapplc]

I was going off memory. Thought it was when he came back in. Point is, he was booed (and skewered all week). And Bo reacted to that. It will be interesting to see how Riley reacts when fans boo Huskers in the future.

I had no problem with Bo's reaction.

So you hope the fans don't boo during the Riley Era like they didn't boo during your fictitious scenario of the Pelini Era?

Here's hoping they also don't burn down Memorial Stadium like they didn't do in 2007, right?

 

[cm husker]

I was going off memory. Thought it was when he came back in. Point is, he was booed (and skewered all week). And Bo reacted to that. It will be interesting to see how Riley reacts when fans boo Huskers in the future.

I had no problem with Bo's reaction.

So you hope the fans don't boo during the Riley Era like they didn't boo during your fictitious scenario of the Pelini Era?

Here's hoping they also don't burn down Memorial Stadium like they didn't do in 2007, right?

They booed Martinez during that game. I hope that Husker fans never again boo a Husker player, especially for on the field performance.

Hopeful. But not optimistic.

And when they do, I hope that the then-current HC rips them, just like TO did in the 80s and Bo did in 2011.

 

[knapplc]

Osborne never "ripped" the fans.

 

[Red Dead Redemption]

Osborne never "ripped" the fans.

Relatively speaking, I think he did.

 

[cm husker]

Osborne never "ripped" the fans.

He gave at least one halftime interview where he called out "the dial in fans" who had been ripping his defense previously. I'll try to find the link, but for anyone older than 35 or so, you'll remember his reactions to the "voices from the grandstand" column.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

Husker fans can be among the harshest out there when it comes to criticizing their own. Probably because so many have a sense of entitlement related to a self aggrandizement about being the best in the country. Who knows.

I think Nebraska fans are terrifically loyal to their team and their players. Better than most.

They're also pretty knowledgeable.

When the Huskers came out and played incredibly lackluster in the first half against an unranked and probation scarred Ohio State, the week after a lackluster blowout that was supposed to be their wake-up call, there may indeed have been scattered boos. A few folks up in the rafters left at halftime.

Then when Taylor Martinez engineered the greatest comeback in Nebraska history, the place went wild.

The team deserved the accolades. And they deserved the loud grumbling, too, if not the boos.

So if 95% of the fans stayed and wildly cheered on the team's second-half turnaround, that would mean the glass was 95% full.

Bo was obsessed -- I mean visibly, disturbingly obsessed -- that the glass was 5% empty. His press conference was petulant and childish.

Two years later, when the fans found out what Bo really said at halftime, a vast majority were supportive of Bo and enraged by the Leaker.

Remember that?

Nebraska fans treated Bo better than he deserved.

When Bo was given a fresh start in his hometown the exact same problems resurfaced, and Youngstown State fans -- who were leaving their 15,000 seat stadium half empty -- generally acted as dismayed and "entitled" as Husker fans.

 

[cm husker]

Osborne never "ripped" the fans.

Relatively speaking, I think he did.

Yes I suppose for the literal (though not sure how anyone can try to take a term like "ripped the fans" and construe it literally), he did it in his own way... like how he declined further comment on Perlman after offering that he would be remembered for the move to the B10. That speaks volumes (again, not being literal, since we have to announce it now).

 

[knapplc]

Tom Osborne murdered a guy in 1984.

Of course, I don't mean that LITERALLY, since we have to announce that now.

 

[cm husker]

Husker fans can be among the harshest out there when it comes to criticizing their own. Probably because so many have a sense of entitlement related to a self aggrandizement about being the best in the country. Who knows.

I think Nebraska fans are terrifically loyal to their team and their players. Better than most.

They're also pretty knowledgeable.

When the Huskers came out and played incredibly lackluster in the first half against an unranked and probation scarred Ohio State, the week after a lackluster blowout that was supposed to be their wake-up call, there may indeed have been scattered boos. A few folks up in the rafters left at halftime.

Then when Taylor Martinez engineered the greatest comeback in Nebraska history, the place went wild.

The team deserved the accolades. And they deserved the loud grumbling, too, if not the boos.

So if 95% of the fans stayed and wildly cheered on the team's second-half turnaround, that would mean the glass was 95% full.

Bo was obsessed -- I mean visibly, disturbingly obsessed -- that the glass was 5% empty. His press conference was petulant and childish.

Two years later, when the fans found out what Bo really said at halftime, a vast majority were supportive of Bo and enraged by the Leaker.

Remember that?

Nebraska fans treated Bo better than he deserved.

When Bo was given a fresh start in his hometown the exact same problems resurfaced, and Youngstown State fans -- who were leaving their 15,000 seat stadium half empty -- generally acted as dismayed and "entitled" as Husker fans.

You seem to just ignore the fire that TM and the team had been under the previous week. Even TO commented on it.

sh#t adds up. Bo's reaction wasn't to only a 5% issue.

 

[Red Dead Redemption]

Tom Osborne murdered a guy in 1984.Of course, I don't mean that LITERALLY, since we have to announce that now.

You're in the wrong thread.

Here you go:

http://www.huskerboard.com/index.php?/topic/79162-the-derp-thread/

 

[Red Five]

It's amusing to me that Perlman would invoke respect for Osborne's legacy while also justifying the idiocy of firing Frank in '03 and later Bo for "not winning the games that matter."

Well, Bo absolutely did not win the games that mattered so what's your point?
Yea Frank probably should not have been fired, but how can anyone still defend Bo? He told you to go F*ck yourself. Bo was an embarrassment, he had a terrible petulant temper, and he could not win the games that mattered.

Harvey's greatest achievement was Sh*t canning ole BO. I commend Harvey for that endeavor.

I don't think Bo ever said "Throwing Bones, go ____ yourself." But maybe I missed that Omaha/Journalstar article.

Obviously he didn't use your HB name, or your RL name but he did tell the fans to go F themselves, and if you're a fan (I'm assuming you are since you are here posting) that applies to you as well.

He told fans who booed his players to go f#*k themselves. And I echo his sentiments.

The fans should cheer the team off the field at halftime every time. It doesn't matter that we were down 20-6 and being outgained 246 to 117 by an unranked team. Or that NU was coming off a game the week before where they were beat down 48-17.

And if I had to guess, I would say the boos were aimed at Bo and staff.

I know you want to rationalize it all away, but in reality those fans started booing when TM came back in (not unlike what happened to Frost at one point). They had ripped him all week. Very harshly. To the extent that guys like Burkhead felt the need to speak out in his defense.
There's a big difference between booing and simply sitting silently.

That's why I'll never blame players much for a "us against them" attitude. Husker fans can be among the harshest out there when it comes to criticizing their own. Probably because so many have a sense of entitlement related to a self aggrandizement about being the best in the country. Who knows.

Huh? Where did TM go in the OSU game that he had to come back in? Do you mean he was booed when he started the game?

Booed when he was sent back out for a series in the second quarter.
I recommend you simply educate yourself on this topic. The reports are there outlining it.

Please show me where Taylor was booed in the 2Q. I was at the game. I don't recall it.

It's on YouTube I'm sure. It was immediately after he threw an interception as he came off the field. That's when Bo gave his famous card wave at the booers.

Yup. There were grumbles after he threw that pick with :15 in the 2Q. Nebraska didn't run another play in the 2Q after that, so he couldn't have been booed when he came back out in the 2Q. And he wasn't booed when he came back out to start the 3Q.

"Grumbles"
That's funny. You're a funny guy.

Thank you!
But I still am not seeing where Taylor was booed when he came back in the game?

I was going off memory. Thought it was when he came back in. Point is, he was booed (and skewered all week). And Bo reacted to that. It will be interesting to see how Riley reacts when fans boo Huskers in the future.

I had no problem with Bo's reaction.

So I was the one that was educated on the topic. Got it!

 

[cm husker]

So I was the one that was educated on the topic. Got it!

Not at all surprised that you remembered the precise moment when the booing started, as you most likely participated in it. I thought you were trying to deny it happened at all.