OWH: Outgoing UNL Chancellor Harvey Perlman leaves with unmet goal: Huskers’ return to top

[StPaulHusker]

It's f'ing laughable how some of you think he is to blame for Husker football.

You don't see a direct link there.. and how that hire/fire can affect football? Don't forget whoever the AD hires/fires is also a direct link to the Chancellor.

Really, you can't see the chain of command and how that link can affect things from top down?

Here is the link:

Perlman is in charge of the university.

He has people in charge of certain areas that lay out a plan and give him advice as to what to do.

He either signs off on it based on their presentation, or doesn't.

In the end, it's the AD that lives or dies with the decision. It appears to me that Perlman's fault was trusting an AD that hired someone that didn't belong in college football, a psychopath, and perhaps a re-tread that will fail.

So, instead of saying "yes I understand the link" you try to make an excuse? Just admit it, the Chancellor is responsible for all of his subordinates, and their actions are a direct reflections on him.

That doesn't mean he is directly responsible for the play on the field or the lack of recruiting efforts by the coach.

nobody said it did, but that doesn't mean he isn't responsible for the whole operation. Think bigger picture.

We will just continue to talk in circles. You believe what you want.

No disrespect but you clearly have an agenda, whatever that agenda is.

My agenda is that it's a stupid thought that the president/chancellor of a university is the cause of 16 years of relatively poor football play.

 

[cm husker]

You said TO's hand was a constant like Perlman's, but clearly that's not true. I'm not sure why that realization would prompt a personal insult.

We will agree to disagree. We see it differently. But the reasons to insult you go beyond this.

The difficult thing is understanding how you can see TO as being as responsible as Perlman. TO's picks went a combined 125-46 (73-22) and finished ranked (or were ranked at time of firing) during 11 of 13 seasons - with several division wins, a conference champ win and a NC appearance.
Those records amount to some of the best by first time coaches EVER.

It was Perlman that decided to fire those coaches and replace them with Callahan and Riley.

My one solice is that I actually like Riley as a person. Just wish people would quit tearing down TO, Frank, Bo and their players as a method of defending Riley.

Also wish Perlman would quit bringing the topic up in an effort to justify his idiotic moves.

 

[Stumpy1]

You said TO's hand was a constant like Perlman's, but clearly that's not true. I'm not sure why that realization would prompt a personal insult.

We will agree to disagree. We see it differently. But the reasons to insult you go beyond this.

The difficult thing is understanding how you can see TO as being as responsible as Perlman. TO's picks went a combined 125-46 (73-22) and finished ranked (or were ranked at time of firing) during 11 of 13 seasons - with several division wins, a conference champ win and a NC appearance.
Those records amount to some of the best by first time coaches EVER.

It was Perlman that decided to fire those coaches and replace them with Callahan and Riley.

My one solice is that I actually like Riley as a person. Just wish people would quit tearing down TO, Frank, Bo and their players as a method of defending Riley.

Also wish Perlman would quit bringing the topic up in an effort to justify his idiotic moves.

TO was a poor judge of character then...They might have been decent football coaches but they had other issues that led to their dismissal. Why you can't get that through your damn head is beyond me. But whatever.

 

[StPaulHusker]

You said TO's hand was a constant like Perlman's, but clearly that's not true. I'm not sure why that realization would prompt a personal insult.

We will agree to disagree. We see it differently. But the reasons to insult you go beyond this.

The difficult thing is understanding how you can see TO as being as responsible as Perlman. TO's picks went a combined 125-46 (73-22) and finished ranked (or were ranked at time of firing) during 11 of 13 seasons - with several division wins, a conference champ win and a NC appearance.
Those records amount to some of the best by first time coaches EVER.

It was Perlman that decided to fire those coaches and replace them with Callahan and Riley.

My one solice is that I actually like Riley as a person. Just wish people would quit tearing down TO, Frank, Bo and their players as a method of defending Riley.

Also wish Perlman would quit bringing the topic up in an effort to justify his idiotic moves.

TO was a poor judge of character then...They might have been decent football coaches but they had other issues that led to their dismissal. Why you can't get that through your damn head is beyond me. But whatever.

TO has always been poor judge of character. It goes beyond 2 football coaches.

 

[Red Dead Redemption]

You said TO's hand was a constant like Perlman's, but clearly that's not true. I'm not sure why that realization would prompt a personal insult.

We will agree to disagree. We see it differently. But the reasons to insult you go beyond this.

The difficult thing is understanding how you can see TO as being as responsible as Perlman. TO's picks went a combined 125-46 (73-22) and finished ranked (or were ranked at time of firing) during 11 of 13 seasons - with several division wins, a conference champ win and a NC appearance. Those records amount to some of the best by first time coaches EVER.

It was Perlman that decided to fire those coaches and replace them with Callahan and Riley.

My one solice is that I actually like Riley as a person. Just wish people would quit tearing down TO, Frank, Bo and their players as a method of defending Riley.

Also wish Perlman would quit bringing the topic up in an effort to justify his idiotic moves.

Not only that, but some people feel the need to take it a step further and embellish and hyperbolize to support their argument. TO, FS, and BP did plenty of things that are worthy of criticism, so there is no need for anyone to fabricate/distort/mischaracterize the facts just to bolster their argument. But some continue to do it anyway.

 

[cm husker]

You said TO's hand was a constant like Perlman's, but clearly that's not true. I'm not sure why that realization would prompt a personal insult.

We will agree to disagree. We see it differently. But the reasons to insult you go beyond this.

The difficult thing is understanding how you can see TO as being as responsible as Perlman. TO's picks went a combined 125-46 (73-22) and finished ranked (or were ranked at time of firing) during 11 of 13 seasons - with several division wins, a conference champ win and a NC appearance.
Those records amount to some of the best by first time coaches EVER.

It was Perlman that decided to fire those coaches and replace them with Callahan and Riley.

My one solice is that I actually like Riley as a person. Just wish people would quit tearing down TO, Frank, Bo and their players as a method of defending Riley.

Also wish Perlman would quit bringing the topic up in an effort to justify his idiotic moves.

TO was a poor judge of character then...They might have been decent football coaches but they had other issues that led to their dismissal. Why you can't get that through your damn head is beyond me. But whatever.

Because those rumors have never been substantiated beyond internet smear campaigns regarding solich.

And I never had major issues with Pelini on the sideline because (a) I knew he and his players had a special relationship and (b) figured he'd grow out of it as he matured as a coach. So I don't consider his behavior a "character flaw."

 

[cm husker]

You said TO's hand was a constant like Perlman's, but clearly that's not true. I'm not sure why that realization would prompt a personal insult.

We will agree to disagree. We see it differently. But the reasons to insult you go beyond this.

The difficult thing is understanding how you can see TO as being as responsible as Perlman. TO's picks went a combined 125-46 (73-22) and finished ranked (or were ranked at time of firing) during 11 of 13 seasons - with several division wins, a conference champ win and a NC appearance.
Those records amount to some of the best by first time coaches EVER.

It was Perlman that decided to fire those coaches and replace them with Callahan and Riley.

My one solice is that I actually like Riley as a person. Just wish people would quit tearing down TO, Frank, Bo and their players as a method of defending Riley.

Also wish Perlman would quit bringing the topic up in an effort to justify his idiotic moves.

TO was a poor judge of character then...They might have been decent football coaches but they had other issues that led to their dismissal. Why you can't get that through your damn head is beyond me. But whatever.

TO has always been poor judge of character. It goes beyond 2 football coaches.

This is almost becoming unreal.

 

[In the Deed the Glory]

You said TO's hand was a constant like Perlman's, but clearly that's not true. I'm not sure why that realization would prompt a personal insult.

We will agree to disagree. We see it differently. But the reasons to insult you go beyond this.

The difficult thing is understanding how you can see TO as being as responsible as Perlman. TO's picks went a combined 125-46 (73-22) and finished ranked (or were ranked at time of firing) during 11 of 13 seasons - with several division wins, a conference champ win and a NC appearance.
Those records amount to some of the best by first time coaches EVER.

It was Perlman that decided to fire those coaches and replace them with Callahan and Riley.

My one solice is that I actually like Riley as a person. Just wish people would quit tearing down TO, Frank, Bo and their players as a method of defending Riley.

Also wish Perlman would quit bringing the topic up in an effort to justify his idiotic moves.

TO was a poor judge of character then...They might have been decent football coaches but they had other issues that led to their dismissal. Why you can't get that through your damn head is beyond me. But whatever.

Because those rumors have never been substantiated beyond internet smear campaigns regarding solich.

And I never had major issues with Pelini on the sideline because (a) I knew he and his players had a special relationship and (b) figured he'd grow out of it as he matured as a coach. So I don't consider his behavior a "character flaw."

Well it doesn't really matter if you had issues. The leadership at the University did, along with SEVERAL major boosters and the majority of the fanbase.

 

[In the Deed the Glory]

It's f'ing laughable how some of you think he is to blame for Husker football.

You don't see a direct link there.. and how that hire/fire can affect football? Don't forget whoever the AD hires/fires is also a direct link to the Chancellor.

Really, you can't see the chain of command and how that link can affect things from top down?

Here is the link:

Perlman is in charge of the university.

He has people in charge of certain areas that lay out a plan and give him advice as to what to do.

He either signs off on it based on their presentation, or doesn't.

In the end, it's the AD that lives or dies with the decision. It appears to me that Perlman's fault was trusting an AD that hired someone that didn't belong in college football, a psychopath, and perhaps a re-tread that will fail.

So, instead of saying "yes I understand the link" you try to make an excuse? Just admit it, the Chancellor is responsible for all of his subordinates, and their actions are a direct reflections on him.

That doesn't mean he is directly responsible for the play on the field or the lack of recruiting efforts by the coach.

nobody said it did, but that doesn't mean he isn't responsible for the whole operation. Think bigger picture.

We will just continue to talk in circles. You believe what you want.

No disrespect but you clearly have an agenda, whatever that agenda is.

My agenda is that it's a stupid thought that the president/chancellor of a university is the cause of 16 years of relatively poor football play.

So much this. If the top priority of the Chancellor of the University of Nebraska ever becomes the football team we are in big trouble. Literally every other aspect of the University is better than it was 16 years ago except football. Some people priorities are so out of whack...

Also, you don't understand how to properly manage people you hire to do a job if you think this is how it works.

 

[cm husker]

Actually, prior to their firings, a majority of Nebraska fans didn't support firing Bo or Frank.

 

[Red Dead Redemption]

You said TO's hand was a constant like Perlman's, but clearly that's not true. I'm not sure why that realization would prompt a personal insult.

We will agree to disagree. We see it differently. But the reasons to insult you go beyond this.

The difficult thing is understanding how you can see TO as being as responsible as Perlman. TO's picks went a combined 125-46 (73-22) and finished ranked (or were ranked at time of firing) during 11 of 13 seasons - with several division wins, a conference champ win and a NC appearance.Those records amount to some of the best by first time coaches EVER.

It was Perlman that decided to fire those coaches and replace them with Callahan and Riley.

My one solice is that I actually like Riley as a person. Just wish people would quit tearing down TO, Frank, Bo and their players as a method of defending Riley.

Also wish Perlman would quit bringing the topic up in an effort to justify his idiotic moves.

TO was a poor judge of character then...They might have been decent football coaches but they had other issues that led to their dismissal. Why you can't get that through your damn head is beyond me. But whatever.

TO has always been poor judge of character. It goes beyond 2 football coaches.

Yeah, I don't get this either.

Please elaborate. Are you referring to players?

 

[cm husker]

It's f'ing laughable how some of you think he is to blame for Husker football.

You don't see a direct link there.. and how that hire/fire can affect football? Don't forget whoever the AD hires/fires is also a direct link to the Chancellor.

Really, you can't see the chain of command and how that link can affect things from top down?

Here is the link:
Perlman is in charge of the university.

He has people in charge of certain areas that lay out a plan and give him advice as to what to do.

He either signs off on it based on their presentation, or doesn't.

In the end, it's the AD that lives or dies with the decision. It appears to me that Perlman's fault was trusting an AD that hired someone that didn't belong in college football, a psychopath, and perhaps a re-tread that will fail.

So, instead of saying "yes I understand the link" you try to make an excuse? Just admit it, the Chancellor is responsible for all of his subordinates, and their actions are a direct reflections on him.

That doesn't mean he is directly responsible for the play on the field or the lack of recruiting efforts by the coach.

nobody said it did, but that doesn't mean he isn't responsible for the whole operation. Think bigger picture.

We will just continue to talk in circles. You believe what you want.

No disrespect but you clearly have an agenda, whatever that agenda is.

My agenda is that it's a stupid thought that the president/chancellor of a university is the cause of 16 years of relatively poor football play.

So much this. If the top priority of the Chancellor of the University of Nebraska ever becomes the football team we are in big trouble. Literally every other aspect of the University is better than it was 16 years ago except football. Some people priorities are so out of whack...
Also, you don't understand how to properly manage people you hire to do a job if you think this is how it works.

I'm fine with him not being involved. Most of us are! Personally, I thought he should have been required to seek approval from the BoR for all sports decisions after his Pederson debacle.

Point is, as he explained again in this recent interview, he continually inserted himself into it and hired bad people (excepted when forced to bring TO back).

 

[StPaulHusker]

Actually, prior to their firings, a majority of Nebraska fans didn't support firing Bo or Frank.

Please prove facts of this

 

[StPaulHusker]

It's f'ing laughable how some of you think he is to blame for Husker football.

You don't see a direct link there.. and how that hire/fire can affect football? Don't forget whoever the AD hires/fires is also a direct link to the Chancellor.

Really, you can't see the chain of command and how that link can affect things from top down?

Here is the link:
Perlman is in charge of the university.

He has people in charge of certain areas that lay out a plan and give him advice as to what to do.

He either signs off on it based on their presentation, or doesn't.

In the end, it's the AD that lives or dies with the decision. It appears to me that Perlman's fault was trusting an AD that hired someone that didn't belong in college football, a psychopath, and perhaps a re-tread that will fail.

So, instead of saying "yes I understand the link" you try to make an excuse? Just admit it, the Chancellor is responsible for all of his subordinates, and their actions are a direct reflections on him.

That doesn't mean he is directly responsible for the play on the field or the lack of recruiting efforts by the coach.

nobody said it did, but that doesn't mean he isn't responsible for the whole operation. Think bigger picture.

We will just continue to talk in circles. You believe what you want.

No disrespect but you clearly have an agenda, whatever that agenda is.

My agenda is that it's a stupid thought that the president/chancellor of a university is the cause of 16 years of relatively poor football play.

So much this. If the top priority of the Chancellor of the University of Nebraska ever becomes the football team we are in big trouble. Literally every other aspect of the University is better than it was 16 years ago except football. Some people priorities are so out of whack...
Also, you don't understand how to properly manage people you hire to do a job if you think this is how it works.

I'm fine with him not being involved. Most of us are! Personally, I thought he should have been required to seek approval from the BoR for all sports decisions after his Pederson debacle.

Point is, as he explained again in this recent interview, he continually inserted himself into it and hired bad people (excepted when forced to bring TO back).

So I guess the BOR are to blame for the demise of football now?

 

[StPaulHusker]

You said TO's hand was a constant like Perlman's, but clearly that's not true. I'm not sure why that realization would prompt a personal insult.

We will agree to disagree. We see it differently. But the reasons to insult you go beyond this.

The difficult thing is understanding how you can see TO as being as responsible as Perlman. TO's picks went a combined 125-46 (73-22) and finished ranked (or were ranked at time of firing) during 11 of 13 seasons - with several division wins, a conference champ win and a NC appearance.Those records amount to some of the best by first time coaches EVER.

It was Perlman that decided to fire those coaches and replace them with Callahan and Riley.

My one solice is that I actually like Riley as a person. Just wish people would quit tearing down TO, Frank, Bo and their players as a method of defending Riley.

Also wish Perlman would quit bringing the topic up in an effort to justify his idiotic moves.

TO was a poor judge of character then...They might have been decent football coaches but they had other issues that led to their dismissal. Why you can't get that through your damn head is beyond me. But whatever.

TO has always been poor judge of character. It goes beyond 2 football coaches.

Yeah, I don't get this either.

Please elaborate. Are you referring to players?

Mainly.