Douschebag Hall of Fame
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NUance
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He was a sock account for a previously banned member.
Lesson: If you're going to attempt to come back with a different account (which is against the rules), don't be a d!(k.
GSG
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It was RADAR
Uh, huh... ok RADAR....It is an indictment on the previous staff to recruit and develop talent. The jury is still out on this staff, but looks very positive.Depending on the walk-on program to fill a large number of holes in the depth chart is an indictment on the program's abilities to recruit and develop talent.I look at all of the walk-on talent as a positive.
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zoogs
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Of course it's OK for him to use that word. Have you ever watched, to use a couple of well-known biracial people as examples, Key & Peele?
Does a black person using this word make them a hypocrite for speaking out against racial discrimination?
Or are we simply looking for easy outs to give ourselves as reason to ignore the message entirely?
Does a black person using this word make them a hypocrite for speaking out against racial discrimination?
Or are we simply looking for easy outs to give ourselves as reason to ignore the message entirely?
JJ Husker
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Nobody needs a reason to ignore Kaepernick. He is just an overpaid middling NFL backup quarterback. Not sure why anyone should care at all what he does or says. If he wants to sit down for the National Anthem, fine with me, that's his right as a US citizen. And if people want to call him out for it and call him a douchebag, that's their right also. Nobody will remember his name in a couple years anyway. We'd all be better off if society didn't bestow unearned feelings of importance or brilliance on athletes, actors and other well known people just because they make movies or play a game on TV. Really, it doesn't give them any special insight, just a bigger platform.
zoogs
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Yes, it does give them a platform -- which they can use responsibly or not.
But my post was not really about Kaep so much as this argument that because Kaep previously used the n-word, it makes his political activism hypocritical. That's a flimsy argument, it's used frequently in other situations and it shouldn't be.
But my post was not really about Kaep so much as this argument that because Kaep previously used the n-word, it makes his political activism hypocritical. That's a flimsy argument, it's used frequently in other situations and it shouldn't be.
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Count 'Bility
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Edit. Im not goin there. It solves nothing.
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JJ Husker
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IDK, I think Kaepernick is flirting on the edge of credibility. I might be a little tainted against giving him the benefit of the doubt since he's been such a douche here lately and I really don't know much about him otherwise but he sure doesn't seem to have lived the life of somebody that has really experienced the racial problems most black people have endured. I mean he isn't too far removed from being a rich white guy is he? So, when he uses the N word, should it be taken in the good natured "friendly" way or should it be taken like some racist white guy said it? Not sure I have an answer but I sure can see how it could be taken to discredit his recent actions on race matters. Seems like maybe another poor spokesman for the cause. And I've already wasted one more give a f#*k than I should have about anything he does or says.
Edit-changed flirty to flirting. Thx RDR
Damn auto correct...
Edit-changed flirty to flirting. Thx RDR
Damn auto correct...
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Mierin
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I don't see why it's relevant whether he's ever experienced racial problems. If he hasn't, the fact he can empathize even though he's rich and privileged is not a bad thing. As someone who's white and never experienced racism directed at me (at least not that I was aware of), I can still be pissed off that it happens to other people.
That said, I find it highly unlikely that he hasn't experienced it. I remember in school there were 2 kids in my class who were Black but had very light skin and I heard them being referred to as oreos. And that's just what I personally heard. I'm sure they dealt with racism a lot more often than that one time. You can argue Kaepernick has never experienced systematic racism because of the situation he grew up in and where he's at now, but that doesn't mean he can't be pissed off at it.
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JJ Husker
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I don't think a person has to experience the problem to have credibility speaking on the issue. BUT (and I'm going to make some assumptions based on claims that I really know very little about...just things I have gleaned from the pages of HB) it has been stated he was basically raised as a spoiled white kid and he has apparently recently been fined (punished) by the NFL for calling someone the N word. I'm going to make the assumption that term gets tossed around on NFL fields a lot between black men without ever triggering a fine because it used in a friendly way. So, I will assume that since CK was fined for it, it was not used in that commonly acceptable way and therefore it was made with bad intentions in a racial way. So, I feel if a person is going to try to make some grand social statement by refusing to stand for the National Anthem because of their position on a race matter, they should probably keep their nose clean as it relates to other race matters. That is why I think he is flirting with credibility.
Of course I may be completely off base....I really don't care about this other than many people seem to be talking about it.
zoogs
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To the extent that a biracial kid born to a destitute mother and a father who was never in the picture, then put up for adoption can be called "basically a spoiled white kid", yes, I suppose he was.
I think that's a heck of an assumption on the fine, by the way. I don't know anything about it myself.
I think that's a heck of an assumption on the fine, by the way. I don't know anything about it myself.
JJ Husker
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Hey, I'm not going to claim that I'm not WAY off base with my assumptions or knowledge on the matter.
I knew from the git go that I should probably never comment on this issue at all.
I have not heard, seen or read one thing about CK or this issue except here on HB and one article about Boomer Esiason's opinion on MSN.
The five things I've seen or think I know that cause me to have this possibly ill begotten opinion;
1- He refused to stand up for the National Anthem to protest racial conditions in this country, much like BLM.
2- I read that his parents were rich, at least one was white and that he was raised in an affluent white neighborhood and likely hasn't experienced any firsthand prejudice. (IDK if that's true-but it is now my perception)
3- He was fined by the NFL for calling someone the N word (also don't know if that is true)
4- Boomer lit him up for failing to stand for the anthem, calling it the most blatant act of disrespect by an NFL player ever.
5- I know he makes millions of dollars per year playing QB in the NFL but that he is now no more than a backup who is with a team and coach he does not like and all of this may just be positioning to help him get traded or to further his own personal agenda.
...like I said, I probably have no business commenting on it at all. But it's the interwebs and I can, so I did.
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