What in the world has happened to Sparty?

Here's the thing. MSU should not be even half as good as they have been over the last half-decade plus. Mark Dantonio is one of the top 3 coaches in the entire game and has done something that, honestly, nobody has ever really accomplished before - not even Nick Saban. He's made a mostly-perennial powerhouse out of a non-blue blood with junk for resources. He's allowed to have a down or even awful year once every 4-6 years or so, because he has overachieved by a landslide at that school.

 
Landlord of Memorial Stadium said:
Here's the thing. MSU should not be even half as good as they have been over the last half-decade plus. Mark Dantonio is one of the top 3 coaches in the entire game and has done something that, honestly, nobody has ever really accomplished before - not even Nick Saban. He's made a mostly-perennial powerhouse out of a non-blue blood with junk for resources. He's allowed to have a down or even awful year once every 4-6 years or so, because he has overachieved by a landslide at that school.
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Agree, but to the bolded: Snyder

 
Moiraine said:
Landlord of Memorial Stadium said:
Here's the thing. MSU should not be even half as good as they have been over the last half-decade plus. Mark Dantonio is one of the top 3 coaches in the entire game and has done something that, honestly, nobody has ever really accomplished before - not even Nick Saban. He's made a mostly-perennial powerhouse out of a non-blue blood with junk for resources. He's allowed to have a down or even awful year once every 4-6 years or so, because he has overachieved by a landslide at that school.
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Agree, but to the bolded: Snyder
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Snyder never got to where Dantonio has, imo. He had a great run in the late 90's of a handful of top-10 finishes but really struggled to get to the level of conference championships, major bowls and in the end of season hunt to play for it all. But point well taken.

 
Landlord of Memorial Stadium said:
Moiraine said:
Landlord of Memorial Stadium said:
Here's the thing. MSU should not be even half as good as they have been over the last half-decade plus. Mark Dantonio is one of the top 3 coaches in the entire game and has done something that, honestly, nobody has ever really accomplished before - not even Nick Saban. He's made a mostly-perennial powerhouse out of a non-blue blood with junk for resources. He's allowed to have a down or even awful year once every 4-6 years or so, because he has overachieved by a landslide at that school.
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Agree, but to the bolded: Snyder
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Snyder never got to where Dantonio has, imo. He had a great run in the late 90's of a handful of top-10 finishes but really struggled to get to the level of conference championships, major bowls and in the end of season hunt to play for it all. But point well taken.
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Snyder has done something similar over a longer period of time, but without the hardware and accolades to show for it. Dantonio has done it in a shorter timespan, but has had more success in said timespan.

Both are great, and while Dantonio has gotten the hardware, Snyder does have a stadium named after him...

 
Landlord of Memorial Stadium said:
Here's the thing. MSU should not be even half as good as they have been over the last half-decade plus. Mark Dantonio is one of the top 3 coaches in the entire game and has done something that, honestly, nobody has ever really accomplished before - not even Nick Saban. He's made a mostly-perennial powerhouse out of a non-blue blood with junk for resources. He's allowed to have a down or even awful year once every 4-6 years or so, because he has overachieved by a landslide at that school.
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It has helped that up until now, Michigan has been dog.

 
MattyIce said:
Landlord of Memorial Stadium said:
Here's the thing. MSU should not be even half as good as they have been over the last half-decade plus. Mark Dantonio is one of the top 3 coaches in the entire game and has done something that, honestly, nobody has ever really accomplished before - not even Nick Saban. He's made a mostly-perennial powerhouse out of a non-blue blood with junk for resources. He's allowed to have a down or even awful year once every 4-6 years or so, because he has overachieved by a landslide at that school.
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It has helped that up until now, Michigan has been dog.
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Yeah, the rise of Michigan State was helped by the fall of Michigan (as well as a down Ohio State in 2011 and average Nebraska teams). Dantonio is a good coach and had a great 3-year run from 2013-2015. But, that's the best 3-year run in school's history. They won the Big Ten and got to the playoff last year by complete fluke. I think they will be hard-pressed to get back to that level.

 
Well...they went from having back to back NFL QB's...to not having that and instead have a statue QB that also can't throw.

They have lost their DC who is doing a good job at Pitt and after while that was going to catch up to them.

They also loved living off the "no on respects us" bit...that only works for so long.

 
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