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zoogs said:
Another one of the Trump EOs, this one from 25 January:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/25/presidential-executive-order-enhancing-public-safety-interior-united

'Executive Order: Enhancing Public Safety in the Interior of the United States'

Sec. 13. Office for Victims of Crimes Committed by Removable Aliens. The Secretary shall direct the Director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to take all appropriate and lawful action to establish within U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement an office to provide proactive, timely, adequate, and professional services to victims of crimes committed by removable aliens and the family members of such victims. This office shall provide quarterly reports studying the effects of the victimization by criminal aliens present in the United States.

Sec. 14. Privacy Act. Agencies shall, to the extent consistent with applicable law, ensure that their privacy policies exclude persons who are not United States citizens or lawful permanent residents from the protections of the Privacy Act regarding personally identifiable information.
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I believe this is the Privacy Act in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_Act_of_1974
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That correct but here is the DOJ version updated for 2015... https://www.justice.gov/opcl/overview-privacy-act-1974-2015-edition

The P.I.I. piece alone will have wide-ranging ramifications and end up being costly for lots of citizens. PII exists as part of every financial system as well every audit/industry information standard across numerous markets (HIPAA, FERPA, GLBA, PCI, etc). The direction I have heard so far is the exclusions are expected to be enforced. That is to say a non-citizen with a US credit card, the PII attached to the credit card CANNOT be encrypted without violating this. Similar interpretation to healthcare systems right now. Corporate America will fight this as the financial cost will easily be in the $Billions if this early direction holds.

 
zoogs said:
NM11046 said:
Ummmm - who else suffered during the holocaust?

These people need to pick up a history book, or go to one of the MANY museums just down the street there in DC.
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It's true that Jews weren't the only ones to suffer from the Nazi extermination efforts. This is not factually inaccurate:

Hicks provided a link to a Huffington Post UK story noting that while 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis, 5 million others were also slaughtered during Adolf Hitler's genocide, including "priests, gypsies, people with mental or physical disabilities, communists, trade unionists, Jehovah's Witnesses, anarchists, Poles and other Slavic peoples, and resistance fighters."
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That's still a remarkably poor excuse to gloss over the astonishing suffering of the Jewish people at the hands of the Nazi regime. By all means, name everyone. But don't give an inch to the anti-Semites and the Holocaust deniers.
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Let's just say the Nazi's targeted as many non-Jews as Jews in their extermination campaign. That still means Jews were still the single-largest affected demographic by many orders-of-magnitude. In this version of the estimates, the Nazi's STILL surpass any possible measure of deplorable-ness.

Now ignoring the impact and suffering of Jews, that's one of those "just when you can't get any lower". I am always astounded by the Holocaust deniers ignorance.

 
Whoa. That third one in particular strikes me as significant. I don't know where Rice is hearing what she's hearing, but she's no crackpot on the internet speculating.

Remember when we joked about Pence running the show for Trump?

 
GM_Tood said:
RedDenver said:
GM_Tood said:
Husker_Power said:
Things that make you go hmmm...
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Those countries (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and UAE) have the infrastructure in place to allow them to identify and screen who is getting on their airplanes perhaps?
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You're reaching here. And you left Azerbaijan off the list.
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Maybe a little as that was my thought on a possible reason before I actually did a little homework on the subject. Trump didn't hand pick those 7 countries. The Executive Order contains this language:

It says that it seeks “Suspension of Issuance of Visas and Other Immigration Benefits to Nationals of Countries of Particular Concern.” It also says“I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order.”

The Department of Homeland Security targeted these seven countries over the last years as countries of concern. In February 2016 “The Department of Homeland Security today announced that it is continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of concern, limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries.” It noted “the three additional countries designated today join Iran, Iraq, Sudan and Syria as countries subject to restrictions for Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals.”

https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/
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so you are saying that this travel ban is really obamas fault?

 
Bigred_inSD said:
NM11046 said:
If interested, you can send emails direct to POTUS, VPOTUS, FLOTUS and others via the WH website. I just wrote letters to all three. I'm sure it gains zero traction but I refuse to do nothing.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
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Did you Melania if she needed an angel shot?
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!!!! Kinda. Pointed out that she is an immigrant, that her mother in law was an immigrant. That she seems to be a mother that wants to do right by her child - to set a good example and then gave some examples of things that are happening that aren't. I'm sure I'll be on some watch list now, but that may distract them from all the other harm they're doing.

 
Another sign that Bannon is the one calling the shots:

The White House is defending the statement it released on International Holocaust Remembrance Day on Friday that had no mention of the 6 million Jews that were killed.

Hope Hicks, the Donald Trump administration spokeswoman, told CNN that, "despite what the media reports, we are an incredibly inclusive group and we took into account all of those who suffered."

Other than having no mention of the 6 million Jews killed, the statement also failed to mention anti-Semitism.
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