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1995 Redux said:
zoogs said:
Please don't take this observation the wrong way, Redux, but it's interesting the amount stick-with-it-ness you have when it comes to the personal aspects of politics (e.g., Moiraine's 'vague interpretations' of the political DBHOF thread, I think?...) versus an actual policy debate (where you're quick to say 'Hey, I'm not interested in the details here.')

It seems like nitpicking would be far more valuable in the latter than the former.
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All she said was that I was interpriting it wrong, twice. She offered no alternative perspective to alter my view.

How am I being a "stick to it" snob if she isn't willing to explain what her complaint "really" means?

And sorry I don't like going into the P&R forum to get kicked around by yall. Just not what I call a good time.
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Below should explain the bold. You so incorrectly interpret me as a person and seemingly everything I say, it's not worth trying.

1995 Redux said:
I blocked you because you get on my nerves. I blocked you because you generally have nothing but sass to throw my direction, and not in a haha kind of way. I blocked you because most of your posts come off snotty, and snotty attitudes put me in a bad mood. I blocked you because I have a hard time imagining you with a smile on your face. I blocked you because you have an incredibly difficult time seeing things from perspectives you don't agree with 100%.
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Hey, I'm not really interested in the details here
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Hey, it's fine to only get your details from people who already hold the views you agree with. Even better to be upfront about it!

 
zoogs said:
Hey, it's fine to only get your details from people who already hold the views you agree with. Even better to be upfront about it!
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But... Redux doesn't agree or disagree with anyone. He just thinks it's a shame when people state facts to someone because that's the same thing as "piling on."

 
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1995 Redux said:
All she said was that I was interpriting it wrong, twice. She offered no alternative perspective to alter my view.

How am I being a "stick to it" snob if she isn't willing to explain what her complaint "really" means?

And sorry I don't like going into the P&R forum to get kicked around by yall. Just not what I call a good time.
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I can't wait for you to hold everyone on this board to this standard. I mean... I know you aren't just fixated on this one person because:

1. They're ideologically different than you

2. They're not the same gender as you

3. They're better at elucidating their point than most people and that's a threat

I mean... it seems that way, but I have faith in you that you'll show us this conclusion isn't true (more than just protestations, ACTIONS).

 
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zoogs said:
Hey, it's fine to only get your details from people who already hold the views you agree with. Even better to be upfront about it!
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That's the thing, I don't do that. You assume that because I don't debate eith you guys or jump into the conversations. I don't for mainly two reasons.

1) I don't follow Politics/Current Events as intently as you do. If I can't add to the discussion, why should I pretend to? I could take every word I read on here as gospel but that would be irresponsible for someone who wants to form an opinion by looking at both sides before deciding where I stand.

2) It get's incredibly frustrating and tiresome navigating the labrinth of posts that get thrown at you if you try to explain a differing view. If you disagree with one poster, 1-4 more immediately jump in to flood that poster with questions to wear them down. You guys call it playing the victim but you know fully well what you are doing. It is what it is, you guys currently control the status quo of discussiom and that's fine. I agree with a lot of things you post and don't feel compelled to throw in my two cents. Once in a while I'd throw in a quick differing opinion only to get bombarded and ultimately frustrated for no good reason.

It's just easier to avoid it all here. I have political discussions with my friends that have differing opinions and it's far more constructive, because it's either one on one or a friendly atmosphere.

The real kicker? Here I am once again defending myself against the pack over something completely different than what was originally at hand because one of the pack members was "in danger" or whatever, so the rest jumped in to defend them. That's the thing that drives people away. Agree with me or not, it really doesn't matter. Go ahead and sh#t all over this post, all you want.

Have a great 4th everyone, even those of you who don't respect me or like me.

 
knapplc said:
1995 Redux said:
All she said was that I was interpriting it wrong, twice. She offered no alternative perspective to alter my view.How am I being a "stick to it" snob if she isn't willing to explain what her complaint "really" means?And sorry I don't like going into the P&R forum to get kicked around by yall. Just not what I call a good time.
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I can't wait for you to hold everyone on this board to this standard. I mean... I know you aren't just fixated on this one person because:1. They're ideologically different than you2. They're not the same gender as you3. They're better at elucidating their point than most people and that's a threatI mean... it seems that way, but I have faith in you that you'll show us this conclusion isn't true (more than just protestations, ACTIONS).
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Yes, your armor is whiter and shinier than most. +1 to you.

 
You do add to the discussion by trying to portray certain views as flawed. You do this by doggedly characterizing the posters (as biased, dogmatic, or vaguely interpretive, for example) instead of by debating any of their points.

That's a plainly invalid argument. So, you want to have the cake (say what amounts to "You're wrong") and eat it to (avoid having to support your statement because it's unreasonable, tiring, you get jumped on, etc).

There's no dislike or animosity here. It just bears pointing out that this technique is a fallacy.

As for here you are, once again defending yourself? I jumped in because you decided to keep at it with Moiraine. Specifically, I found your request for an explanation in this arena humorous -- you certainly don't pull any punches when you feel you can get a good hit in.

 
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