The P&R Plague Thread (Covid-19)

Trump says he doesn't joke about slowing down testing. 

The video

https://www.c-span.org/video/?473328-1/president-trump-protesters-deface-monuments-face-long-term-jail-sentences

The story

https://www.yahoo.com/news/don-t-kid-trump-says-143323056.html

President Donald Trump on Tuesday insisted he was serious when he revealed that he had directed his administration to slow coronavirus testing in the United States, shattering the defenses of senior White House aides who argued Trump’s remarks were made in jest.

“I don’t kid. Let me just tell you. Let me make it clear,” Trump told reporters, when pressed on whether his comments at a campaign event Saturday in Tulsa, Okla., were intended as a joke.

“We have got the greatest testing program anywhere in the world. We test better than anybody in the world. Our tests are the best in the world, and we have the most of them. By having more tests, we find more cases,” he continued.

Administration officials as high ranking as Vice President Mike Pence have scrambled in recent days to clean up Trump’s statements from his weekend rally, where he reprised his dubious logic regarding testing rates before an arena of supporters.

“When you do testing to that extent, you’re going to find more people,” Trump said during the rally. “You’re going to find more cases. So I said to my people, ‘Slow the testing down, please.’”

White House trade adviser Peter Navarro asserted Sunday the president never issued such an explicit directive, telling CNN that Trump’s remarks were “tongue-in-cheek.”

“It was a comment that he made in jest,” White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said at a news briefing Monday, adding: “Any suggestion that testing has been curtailed is not rooted in fact.”

Even Pence sought to manage the political fallout, telling governors during a conference call Monday that Trump’s testing comments were merely a “passing observation,” according to a CBS News report.

But in an interview Monday with Scripps Networks, Trump did not deny asking his administration to curtail coronavirus testing and instead contended that “if we did slow it down, we wouldn’t show nearly as many cases.”

Pressed again Tuesday on the president’s opinions of coronavirus testing, McEnany refused to concede that Trump’s statements were made in earnest. “He was making a serious point, but he was using sarcasm to do that,” she told reporters.

More than 120,000 Americans have already died as a result of Covid-19, and the total number of confirmed infections nationwide has surged beyond 2.3 million. Although public health experts universally agree the U.S. needs more coronavirus testing, not less, Trump remained adamant in his reasoning Tuesday.

“Cases are going up in the U.S. because we are testing far more than any other country, and ever expanding. With smaller testing we would show fewer cases!” he tweeted, later describing testing as a “double-edged sword” to reporters.

“In one way, it tells you you have cases,” Trump said. “In another way, you find out where the cases are, and you do a good job. We are doing a great job. We have never been credited for it. We’re doing the best testing job anywhere in the world.”

Those remarks by the president, as he prepared to depart for Arizona, came roughly an hour before Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country’s top infectious disease expert, and other senior health officials within the administration were scheduled to testify before Congress about the ongoing pandemic.

At a House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing, Fauci told lawmakers that, to his knowledge, no members of the White House coronavirus task force had been asked to scale back testing.

 
This is so true.
Ehhh, I mean, is that really true?  No one?  There are literally hundreds of thousands of people in the streets protesting to help/protect others.  Every single school in the country has been shut down since March.

I know Americans love to be the self-loathing crybaby about how horrible it is to live in America but come on.

 
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Ehhh, I mean, is that really true?  No one?  There are literally hundreds of thousands of people in the streets protesting to help/protect others.  Every single school in the country has been shut down since March.

I know Americans love to be the self-loathing crybaby about how horrible it is to live in America but come on.




It's an interesting topic.

China is likely one of the countries considered "collectivist" and in some ways they are, but when it comes to school they do a s#!t job taking care of kids with disabilities. They focus on the best of the best. The U.S. takes care of educating every child regardless of what kind of future they might have. That's collectivist.

 
BlitzFirst said:
Let's put it this way...if everyone was looking out for their neighbor, Bernie would have the nomination right now and we'd all be holding hands and skipping toward Medicare for all.

That didn't happen.

Thus, it's safe to assume that people don't like looking out for others as much as Socialist Democrats do in this country.  Thus, what they said may not be EXACT but the spirit of what they said is true.  People don't want to have to give others "free rides" and "handouts" etc.  They don't feel its their responsibility to do so.  They're right, it's not.  But they can choose to work together for the common benefit of all mankind/womankind and that's not the choice most make.
Whoooooo, man and womankind?  Ummmm, there are plenty more genders than that!  Ha

Yeah, I get what you are saying, not really sure it is on the same topic as the virus stuff that this dork was tweeting about but I do get it.  I still agree with you that Sanders was f#&%ed by the D's.

 
It's an interesting topic.

China is likely one of the countries considered "collectivist" and in some ways they are, but when it comes to school they do a s#!t job taking care of kids with disabilities. They focus on the best of the best. The U.S. takes care of educating every child regardless of what kind of future they might have. That's collectivist.
You are probably right, I don't know what they do in China for kids that are struggling but if I had to guess I would assume they are all but weeded out.

 
Interesting Study that might be one to watch moving forward. People could have fought off the virus and still test negative for antibodies, yet still have a t-cell response (up to 11 years with SARS). Also could mean we are much closer to herd immunity than antibody testing shows, which would explain why NYC's numbers fell off a cliff, even with opening things up, yet only having 20ish percent having antibodies...


 
Ehhh, I mean, is that really true?  No one?  There are literally hundreds of thousands of people in the streets protesting to help/protect others.  Every single school in the country has been shut down since March.

I know Americans love to be the self-loathing crybaby about how horrible it is to live in America but come on.
OK, "nobody" might be hyperbole.  But, there's a difference between paying taxes to help others or to a charity and actually changing how you do something in your life because it would help others.  That something is something you would have to do every day and it's an inconvenience for you.

THAT'S where the vast majority of Americans fail in helping their neighbor.  In ways, I'm sure I fall in this too.  

 
Interesting Study that might be one to watch moving forward. People could have fought off the virus and still test negative for antibodies, yet still have a t-cell response (up to 11 years with SARS). Also could mean we are much closer to herd immunity than antibody testing shows, which would explain why NYC's numbers fell off a cliff, even with opening things up, yet only having 20ish percent having antibodies...
We’re learning. 

 
OK, "nobody" might be hyperbole.  But, there's a difference between paying taxes to help others or to a charity and actually changing how you do something in your life because it would help others.  That something is something you would have to do every day and it's an inconvenience for you.

THAT'S where the vast majority of Americans fail in helping their neighbor.  In ways, I'm sure I fall in this too.  
And don't forget CHAZ...those wonderful people were totally helping their fellow Americans...get raped, shot, beaten stolen from and murdered.  

 
BlitzFirst said:
Well, that's what we've been led to believe anyway right?

Just like those cops were poisoned by Shake Shack employees...except they weren't even poisoned and didn't go to the hospital at all.

I select a 'wait and see' approach to news nowadays...because we've seen one sensationalized headline repeated ad nauseam about this stuff in Chaz and that's it.
I mean...it came from CNN.  Then the Mayor stepped in to shut down the "country".  CNN is reputable. 

 
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Not that Trump's dumb a$$ comments were worthy of a response, but the U.S. has done about 7% more tests than the E.U., but the U.S. has a 575% higher current 7 day average # of cases.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109066/coronavirus-testing-in-europe-by-country/

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