yes I just think its a bad point. We can see the data in real time and determine that they are doing worse than their Nordic counterparts. Its not rocket science and while we will have more information as time passes realistically the chances that trend changes is slim.
I don't disagree that the data is incomplete and making assumptions based off current data could lead to being completely wrong but I just think its hard to say we can't determine which strategy is best there. To a degree its common sense, the longer you can drag it out the less pressure you put on hospitals, greater chance for vaccine, and more knowledge about treating people and what works. I do agree with pretty much everything else you have said here though. Outcomes will change depending on if and when the vaccine is available. Definitely need as much transparency as possible there
I agree about not making "definitive" claims. We will need the benefit of hindsight, probably years down the road, to say anything definitively.
). That's not the case - their officials were actually attempting to follow traditional epidemiological practice and attempt to achieve herd immunity as quickly as possible.
i wouldn't put a lot of trust on something from that sight. is anyone else reporting this?
Why? Checking into the site they are rated fairly well and while they occasionally post misleading science they are typically known for quality material. Take each article on a case by case basis. I like this article because it goes in depth about why this could be a real possibility. Other articles have focused on is this deliberate or is this bioterrorism, this article stays above that fray. It mainly explores the idea that the pathogen could have escaped, something that is more common than we are aware of as this article highlights. Its well sourced and I would recommend reading it. I would do my due diligence(check the sources they site), but it is a very intriguing read.
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t somebody (The Netherlands I think) attempt the herd immunity approach and it backfired horribly (aka absolute disaster)?Correct.
But it's also quite basic that unless herd immunity is achieved, reinfection occurs with something this contagious. So you're potentially battling it for years unless you have a vaccine that really works effectively. The flu vaccine has a roughly 50% efficacy rate in the U.S.
To go back to Sweden: I saw a lot of people back in April that were acting like Sweden had consulted a "nobody" on virology/epidemiology (like Donald Trump
That plan very well might wind up being absolute disaster - but my point is that we truly don't know right now.
when the patriotic call to wear a mask to help your fellow americans went out....a lot of people said eff that.
My post clearly said I was referencing case data and had a link to the source. But the comparison I made was hospitalization rate of cases of covid vs cases of flu, both of which are based on positive testing, so it's a reasonable comparison especially as an argument against the assertion that covid is similar to the flu. Covid has much higher hospitalization rates among people who have tested positive for covid than flu does for people that have tested positive for the flu.