Biden's America

Frott Scost said:
Well educate me. Name some high paying jobs, we will say 60k that only requires high school diploma. 
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Archy1221 said:
My father in law works at GM factory and makes $90,000. More when he gets good overtime.  Never took a College class 
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While it's true that some higher paying income jobs exist even without a college degree, that's not the case for the majority of earners. The median family income in the US has never been above $60k when you adjust for inflation. The inflation adjusted dollars are in 2014 value:

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http://johnstonsarchive.net/policy/famincome.html

 
RedDenver said:
While it's true that some higher paying income jobs exist even without a college degree, that's not the case for the majority of earners. The median family income in the US has never been above $60k when you adjust for inflation. The inflation adjusted dollars are in 2014 value:



http://johnstonsarchive.net/policy/famincome.html
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https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2020/demo/p60-270.html
 


Median household income was $68,703 in 2019, an increase of 6.8 percent from the 2018 median of $64,324 (Figure 1 and Table A-1).

 
Archy1221 said:
https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2020/demo/p60-270.html
 


Median household income was $68,703 in 2019, an increase of 6.8 percent from the 2018 median of $64,324 (Figure 1 and Table A-1).
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Thanks for linking the more recent data. Looks like family median income has finally gone over $60k. However, individual income still below $60k:

The 2019 real median earnings of men ($57,456) and women ($47,299) who worked full-time, year-round increased by 2.1 percent and 3.0 percent, respectively (Figure 4 and Table A-6). The 2019 female-to-male earnings ratio was 0.823, not statistically different from the 2018 ratio (Figure 5).
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And that's counting both those with and without college degrees, so my point that making more than $60k without a college degree is still unlikely.

That link shows in figure 8 that the poverty rate of those with a HS diploma but no college is 11.5% while the poverty rate for those with a college degree is 3.9%

 
Biden's America :  Normalcy

Normal presidential routine, no chaotic tweets, name calling and treating opponents with civility.   

Trump's antics & unpredictability- even before the election placed a lot of stress on the American psychic.  Normalcy is good for the nation.  Now we can talk about normal things like policy differences without all of the high drama that we had wt Trump.

Maybe Biden is the 2nd coming, except for party and policy differences, of Silent Cal - Calvin Coolidge, who was president nearly the same time 100 years ago.

https://www.biography.com/us-president/calvin-coolidge

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/537418-biden-doubles-down-on-normal-at-white-house
 

The first weeks of President Biden's administration have been a striking contrast with the chaos and turmoil of the Trump administration, bringing a sense of normality back to the White House and government.

Biden, along with Vice President Harris, begins each day receiving the President’s Daily Brief, usually before 10 a.m. His administration has revived the White House daily briefings every weekday.

And when he has signed executive actions, they have usually been paired with events where the president delivers scripted remarks on policy, and he has rarely answered shouted questions from reporters. 

The White House also routinely sends out press releases that seem familiar. In the early days of the presidency, it issued a statement recognizing National Teen Dating Violence Awareness Month — a day that had been routinely marked by previous administrations but ignored under Trump. 

The White House is returning to making visitor logs public on a quarterly basis, a practice that was held under the Obama administration but jettisoned under Trump. Former Obama officials have described Biden’s Cabinet as an extended family of sorts, filled with people whom he has worked with for years and trusts.

“I think one of the main objectives here was giving the presidency a sense of normalcy,” said one longtime Biden aide. “Enough of the crazy s#!t we experienced for four years.”

After a two-hour meeting on Monday with 10 GOP senators, there were no reports of anyone insulting one another — something that happened frequently when Democrats and Trump got together — though there was no deal either. Sen. Susan Collins (R-Me.) described the meeting as “cordial” and expressed gratitude to Biden for hosting them.

Biden’s tweets, written in lowercase letters, are frequently mundane policy missives. It’s a striking contrast with Trump’s hourly 280-character megaphone, where he often picked fights or criticized and mocked opponents. 

“It’s so funny - I hear from friends on both sides of the aisle how cleansing it is to wake up in the morning without feeling that the day will be inflamed by a crazy tweet,” said former Rep. Steve Israel, who served as the chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in the Obama era. “Even people who disagree with President Biden say that at least we’re back to normal.”
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Moiraine said:
There are a lot of people who work hard and don't make a lot of $.
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The fact 3 people laughed at this and think what I say here isn't true is very telling. I make a lot of $. I know there are lot of people earning minimum wage who work harder than I do because I worked for minimum wage through 6 years ago and my job then was harder than my job is now. It just didn't require expertise on a subject that people value. There are also people who work 2 low paying jobs at the same time and work 60 hours or more. I can't fathom why other people don't see that there are a lot of people like this. All 3 people who laughed at this have to assume that most people earning minimum wage are lazy, which is a bunch of f#&%ing bulls#!t and you are just plain wrong with your take.

 
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I think Biden has an opportunity to do bipartisan immigration reform but things like this will only increase Republican opposition to future negotiations.  
 


 
Archy1221 said:
I think Biden has an opportunity to do bipartisan immigration reform but things like this will only increase Republican opposition to future negotiations.  
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The problem the Republicans have is that they obstruct basically everything the Dems propose, so they haven't left themselves any room for the Dems to believe that future negotiations will even be a thing. However, the Dems are politically incompetent, so they'll try to get bipartisan support no matter how many times they get the football pulled out.

 
RedDenver said:
The problem the Republicans have is that they obstruct basically everything the Dems propose, so they haven't left themselves any room for the Dems to believe that future negotiations will even be a thing. However, the Dems are politically incompetent, so they'll try to get bipartisan support no matter how many times they get the football pulled out.
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Maybe because the Dems only want it one way? Why would Republicans support something they are 100% politically opposed to? 
 

 
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