The 2024 Presidential Election- The LONG General Election

Who will you vote for in November - new ballot:

  • Harris

    Votes: 28 71.8%

  • Trump

    Votes: 3 7.7%

  • Kennedy

    Votes: 5 12.8%

  • Other

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Total voters
    39
ZRod said:
I wonder, is this what is was like for the Kennedy assassinations? Maybe the old farts here can share their experiences.
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First of all, get off my lawn.

Secondly, I was 4 when JFK was shot and my research on the assassination proved inconclusive at the time. Even without the internet the conspiracy theories took off, taking at least a year to come out in book form. There was a general understanding that the Warren Commission had a mandate to prove the Lone Gunman theory and save America from the dark implications of the conspiracy theories, and I think America wanted that, too. My parents, the teachers, the neighbors wanted to stick with a single bad guy, Lee Harvey Oswald, and grieve for the President and his young family.

I only found years later that kids growing up in the South may have had very different experiences: the President's death was cheered in the classrooms, with comments like "the (n-word) lover is dead!" A lot of these remembrances came out during the 50th anniversary of the assassination in 2013, including teachers who were fired for reprimanding those cheering children. True stuff.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/nov/21/doug-clark-cheering-at-mississippi-school-added/

As a guy who typically loathes conspiracy theories, I gotta admit JFK remains the gold standard. I don't think anyone of substance still adheres to Lee Harvey Oswald, and the smart money moves between a mob hit, a CIA sponsored action, and plausibly both. 

I'm a little younger than TGHusker, but as a 9 year old in 1968 I went to the RFK campaign headquarters in downtown Lincoln where I picked up a bumper sticker and a Hollywood style RFK head shot that I still have today. When RFK was assassinated, shortly after MLK, my mom burned our comic book collection --- just trying to do something to tamp down the violence that seemed to be everywhere. My little life as a 9 year old remained carefree and happy, but 1968 was pure madness. Vietnam was always playing in the background, war torn bodies every dinnertime. Given how anarchists in Portland get people's panties in a bunch today, you can't imagine what the streets of Chicago looked like during the Democratic National Convention, when the Left was protesting the Democrats because the Democrats were prosecuting the War. I did watch that live. 

It's pretty easy to believe Sirhan Sirhan was the lone gunman in a pre-meditated murder of RFK in an act of Palestinian protest. If you want to know how nuts RFK Jr. is, he conducted a long prison interview with Sirhan Sirhan and emerged claiming Sirhan did not kill his father, providing no new evidence and ignoring that Sirhan had always confessed to the killing. This was just the beginning of the Kennedy family distancing themselves from their conspiracy addict. 

 
Nebfanatic said:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/16/politics/iran-plot-assassinate-trump-secret-service/index.html

Secret Service increased security around Trump over the past few weeks due to information about an Iranian plot to assassinate Trump. It appears there is no connection between the shooting Saturday and the alleged Iranian plot.
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Want to bring this back up because I feel like it deserves discussion. How did Secret Service fail so spectacularly even while being on high alert for an assassination attempt? Why did they let Trump expose himself for as long as they did after the initial shots knowing it could possibly be an Iran backed attempt which would likely mean a contingency plan, backup shooter, something of that sort.

Crazy a 20 year old kid could climb up on a roof with a gun 200 yards from a former US president while security is supposedly on high alert of an assassination. 

 
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Of course he will defy the Supreme Court.  The court neutered itself and in the process relegated our system of checks and balances to the dustbin of history.  The question is why?  

 
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