Economy

My post wasn’t partisan political issue.  It was about tariffs and if reciprocity between countries was good.  
 

How do tariffs and a down stock market benefit rich people? 
Your complaint was that, if he’s wrong, it will be a bloodbath in 2026 and any special election in between. My point is, if he’s wrong, a whole bunch of people will suffer economically and the last thing on their mind will be future election results. 
 

Do you really need that last question answered? Do you not know how rising prices and a down stock market affects the rich much less than it does the poor?

 
Your complaint was that, if he’s wrong, it will be a bloodbath in 2026 and any special election in between. My point is, if he’s wrong, a whole bunch of people will suffer economically and the last thing on their mind will be future election results. 
 

Do you really need that last question answered? Do you not know how rising prices and a down stock market affects the rich much less than it does the poor?
there is no indication that any republicans care about those people.

 
Contest on the ending close for S&P today.     I’m guessing 5505 close. 

Your complaint was that, if he’s wrong, it will be a bloodbath in 2026 and any special election in between. My point is, if he’s wrong, a whole bunch of people will suffer economically and the last thing on their mind will be future election results.
Gotcha. Makes sense.  
 

 
Do you really need that last question answered? Do you not know how rising prices and a down stock market affects the rich much less than it does the poor
Yes.   Because when I talk about the stock market in the past, posters tend to tell me the rising markets affect the rich and the poor can’t take part.   If that’s the case, then many rich folk will get hit pretty hard.   
 

One place I will agree with you on your point is that the rich people who have extra resources will be in a position to buy at a lower entry point which is beneficial vs the un-monied folks who don’t have as many resources to buy lower and they didn’t get out earlier. 
 

Someone else mentioned tariffs were taking place to the tax cut can happen that will be for the rich.  That makes no sense either since unless you are a hooker in Vegas, rich people don’t work for tips, SS taxes generally affect lower income, and rich people tend to not have to work for hourly overtime pay.   Plus, the other parts of the tax cut are an extension of the tax cut we already working under which gave a tax cut to EVERYONE who pays federal income tax.  And the tax cut will increase taxes on rich people with trying to correct the carried interest loophole.  
 

I disagree with the no tax on tips and overtime by the way.   It’s silly to say one way of making money gets zero tax while all the other ways have to pay tax.  

 
Yes.   Because when I talk about the stock market in the past, posters tend to tell me the rising markets affect the rich and the poor can’t take part.   If that’s the case, then many rich folk will get hit pretty hard.   
 

One place I will agree with you on your point is that the rich people who have extra resources will be in a position to buy at a lower entry point which is beneficial vs the un-monied folks who don’t have as many resources to buy lower and they didn’t get out earlier. 
 

Someone else mentioned tariffs were taking place to the tax cut can happen that will be for the rich.  That makes no sense either since unless you are a hooker in Vegas, rich people don’t work for tips, SS taxes generally affect lower income, and rich people tend to not have to work for hourly overtime pay.   Plus, the other parts of the tax cut are an extension of the tax cut we already working under which gave a tax cut to EVERYONE who pays federal income tax.  And the tax cut will increase taxes on rich people with trying to correct the carried interest loophole.  
 

I disagree with the no tax on tips and overtime by the way.   It’s silly to say one way of making money gets zero tax while all the other ways have to pay tax.  
The benefit is relative.

Rich people can buy the dip, Even some not ultra rich can also do that, but that benefit is not available to the average or poorer person because their money is used for simply surviving.

And rich people don’t care if eggs are $14/dozen, gas is $4, or a new car costs $30,000 more than it did yesterday. Sure it still costs them more, so it may not seem like a benefit, but it’s quite a bit different than going hungry or not being able to afford drive a vehicle.

 
And rich people don’t care if eggs are $14/dozen, gas is $4, or a new car costs $30,000 more than it did yesterday. Sure it still costs them more, so it may not seem like a benefit, but it’s quite a bit different than going hungry or not being able to afford drive a vehicle.
Also makes sense 

 
Also makes sense 
And on the extremely personal side, I am nearing retirement. About the last thing I need is to take $100k+ hit on my retirement or for them to really jack with soc sec or medicare. I’ve taken bad hits before but there was time for it to correct. And I know the entitlement programs need help but it gets a lot more dire when you are on the doorstep instead of 10-20 years away.

 
 My point is, if he’s wrong, a whole bunch of people will suffer economically and the last thing on their mind will be future election results.
It's sad that America is going to become significantly poorer and that a recession is going to cause untold harm on the public... but they did vote for it. 

Trump didn't disguised what he intended to do on the campaign trail. The American voting public needs to realize voting has consequences.

 
This dumb f#&%ing s#!thead.
I will be buying. Another reminder to Republicans that tariffs are indeed a tax. They better pray that this turns out okay or they will be toast next election cycle. I have a feeling after this that anyone associated with MAGA will be trying to wash the stink off for some time. 

 
I will be buying. Another reminder to Republicans that tariffs are indeed a tax. They better pray that this turns out okay or they will be toast next election cycle. I have a feeling after this that anyone associated with MAGA will be trying to wash the stink off for some time. 
And that stink should never be able to be washed off. 

 
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