CBS Sports: Breaking Down the Big Ten Schedules

Polo, what would be an example of a tough schedule by your metric?
i am guessing a schedule where it would be unlikely to get 8 wins. maybe a schedule where you would likely be favored in less than 7 games?

I asked for an example not an ideology that is flawed because it is more likely to get more wins the better your team is
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It is not "according to a preseason poll." Preseason polls have nothing to do with the 18th ranked SOS mentioned in the article.
It's an assessment of a schedules difficulty based on the records of the teams on said schedule the previous year. Before the season starts. What I'm getting at is it's not a fixed rating. It will move based on performance of the current season. Once it starts. Because we are in the preseason, you see.

 
Polo, what would be an example of a tough schedule by your metric?
i am guessing a schedule where it would be unlikely to get 8 wins. maybe a schedule where you would likely be favored in less than 7 games?
I asked for an example not an ideology that is flawed because it is more likely to get more wins the better your team is
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the relative toughness of a schedule is contingent upon how good a team you are.

 
Polo, what would be an example of a tough schedule by your metric?
Tough SOS = every one but Nebraska. Easy SOS = Nebraska.

Math, its that objective.
i think polo's point is who cares about other teams' schedules. what should we think about our schedule. he demonstrated that we should pretty easily get 8 wins. do you disagree?
talk about false dichotomies.
The definition of false dichotomy is going to take up 21 pages in the dictionary if this continues.

 
Polo, what would be an example of a tough schedule by your metric?
Tough SOS = every one but Nebraska.

Easy SOS = Nebraska.

Math, its that objective.
i think polo's point is who cares about other teams' schedules. what should we think about our schedule. he demonstrated that we should pretty easily get 8 wins. do you disagree?

talk about false dichotomies.
In order to have perspective/reasonable expectations, I think we should care about other teams' SOS.

I have never mentioned a false dichotomy.

 
Polo, what would be an example of a tough schedule by your metric?
2011



Florida AtlanticMcNeese st

Illinois

Purdue

Rutgers

Fresno St (this could be tougher than expected but several here have been awfully dismissive of them)

So there is all but a guaranteed bowl eligibility section right there.

Minnesota, Northwestern and Iowa.

-all games I would say 98% of the people here expect to win (and rightly so, IMO.). So let's just say they beat Minnesota and Iowa. There's 8 wins.

Wisconsin, Michigan St, and the potential CCG or bowl game.

--and there's why Bo is paid three plus mil a year. And how 2014 should be judged. Does he beat those two teams? Does the team get to the CCG? Are they in good bowl or are we trumpeting another gator bowl trophy?


Chattanooga

Fresno

Wyoming

Washington

Minnesota

Iowa

okay there's bowl eligibility

6-7 Ohio State, Northwestern

- probably games that 98% of fans expected to win??

Wisconsin, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, and postseason

Here's the "paycheck earning" games. So 2011 is a tough schedule because of one slightly better opponent and 2014 isn't a tough schedule because..?

 
the relative toughness of a schedule is contingent upon how good a team you are.
Actually it's contingent upon how good the teams you are playing are, relative to how good the teams other teams are playing are.

Strength of schedule rankings have literally nothing to do with how good YOU are.

 
Polo, what would be an example of a tough schedule by your metric?
Tough SOS = every one but Nebraska. Easy SOS = Nebraska.

Math, its that objective.
i think polo's point is who cares about other teams' schedules. what should we think about our schedule. he demonstrated that we should pretty easily get 8 wins. do you disagree?
talk about false dichotomies.
In order to have perspective/reasonable expectations, I think we should care about other teams' SOS.
I have never mentioned a false dichotomy.
That is a good point.

Let's just take Michigan st for example. I don't think they're too caught up with the lower profile games on their schedule. I'd say they want to beat Michigan, Nebraska and the other main threats they have.

All I'm saying is there's probably eight games on the docket that pretty much should be easy victories. The success or failure of the 2014 season will be whether or not NU beats Sparty, Bucky, Hurricaney (?) and whomever else they qualify to play.

 
Polo, what would be an example of a tough schedule by your metric?
2011
If you're actually going to try and compare those two schedules and call them similar I guess you can. I'm not going to because it's insane.

Florida Atlantic

McNeese st

Illinois

Purdue

Rutgers

Fresno St (this could be tougher than expected but several here have been awfully dismissive of them)

So there is all but a guaranteed bowl eligibility section right there.

Minnesota, Northwestern and Iowa.

-all games I would say 98% of the people here expect to win (and rightly so, IMO.). So let's just say they beat Minnesota and Iowa. There's 8 wins.

Wisconsin, Michigan St, and the potential CCG or bowl game.

--and there's why Bo is paid three plus mil a year. And how 2014 should be judged. Does he beat those two teams? Does the team get to the CCG? Are they in good bowl or are we trumpeting another gator bowl trophy?

Chattanooga

Fresno

Wyoming

Washington

Minnesota

Iowa

okay there's bowl eligibility

6-7 Ohio State, Northwestern

- probably games that 98% of fans expected to win??

Wisconsin, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, and postseason

Here's the "paycheck earning" games. So 2011 is a tough schedule because of one slightly better opponent and 2014 isn't a tough schedule because..?
 
Polo, what would be an example of a tough schedule by your metric?
Tough SOS = every one but Nebraska.

Easy SOS = Nebraska.

Math, its that objective.
i think polo's point is who cares about other teams' schedules. what should we think about our schedule. he demonstrated that we should pretty easily get 8 wins. do you disagree?

talk about false dichotomies.
In order to have perspective/reasonable expectations, I think we should care about other teams' SOS.

I have never mentioned a false dichotomy.
why? how does another team's sos affect how we should view our own? polo seemed pretty reasonable how he got to 8 wins and what the tossup games were. do you disagree?

the bold is the false dichotomy you used to unfairly frame a post.

 
I watched Fresno State play twice last year, being at the games. I was not impressed, more like sandlot football than a real team it seemed. They did seem to play better against Rutgers in the early season.

If we truly have worries about Fresno State and McNeese state, we truly do not expect a CC it would seem to me. Respect all your opponents, no question. But the latter has to be considered a gimme, just to be on the schedule. If we are not ready to play them, which has happened in the past, this will be the last time it happens. No reason for that level of a display after 7 years.

 
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