DOJ Initial Russia Hearings

it amazes me that a "fake investigation by meuller and his 13 angry dems"clears dear leader and his cult is now angry that the investigation took place that "cleared" him.   

 
MNBigRedNorth said:
I answered your question quite clearly.  Now you can just bury it, because you will be getting no where with me on that one!  I can tell you are very agitated and I'm sure going to your above website doesn't make it better.  There are a ton of things far worse with Hillary.  In two years you have the chance to help change leaders, and your not going to get anywhere with me!  I'm only one person.  I'll say again I respect women ALL the time.  Please don't bate me with it!  You've made up your mind, so why bring it here.   Posting boards do not change peoples minds.  Been posting on boards for 15-20 years now and have only seen 1 or 2 people move to the other side that whole time!
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Nah you beat around the bush. I am not getting agitated, I am simply showing you the pattern of behavior that lead people to rightfully call Trump what he is. No reason for you to get upset about people using the 'M' word when describing our President, he has earned it all by himself.

 
knapplc said:
All the MAGA heads calling this a witch hunt for the past two years have GOT to have egg on their faces right now!
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BigRedBuster said:
@45timesbetterthanemptysuit  Questions. 

The report states that the Russuans made numerous offers to trump to help him. 

A). Why didn’t Trump report this to the appropriate officials?

B). Why did Trump cancel sanctions on Russia that Obama had put in place  immediately after taking office?

C). Why did he exhonerate Russia in Helsinki and proclaim that he believes Putin over his own intelligence community about Russia meddling?

Remember, he knew they were meddling. 
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I'll take a whack, because they're clearly not going to.

A) He wanted the help.

B) He's a troll that doesn't like being told to do or not do things. He probably did it to spite those suspicious of him, and well, ya know, it was good for some rich Russians who could give him something in return.

C) He's got a weird boner for autocrats and thinks if they flatter you you've got to flatter them and everything will somehow turn out great. Also he doesn't have the nads to call out Putin to his face. America deserves someone who doesn't shrink on the world stage in front of our enemies.

 
RedNebraskan said:
Why are people freaking out on the "he did not exonerate Trump" line?  It's the job of a prosecutor to look for evidence of a crime, which Mueller did not find any.  That's the important part. 
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Barr’s Letter didn’t say that; that’s quite the leap for you to make. It actually implies the opposite. 

 
RedNebraskan said:
Why are people freaking out on the "he did not exonerate Trump" line?  It's the job of a prosecutor to look for evidence of a crime, which Mueller did not find any.  That's the important part. 
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You didn't read the entire quote from that memo, nor do you obviously understand what Mueller was tasked to do, and what he team was not allowed to do.  

He did not find evidence that without a doubt proved collusion.  Trump is off the hook for that.  As far as obstruction, that is what Mueller handed over to be decided by the USDA or Congress.  The first should have handed it to the second.  We will see more on this.

Edit:  this says it far more succinctly than I did above.


 
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MNBigRedNorth said:
Again, Hillary's business was classified, her was not!  Huge difference legally!
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BigRedBuster said:
Because one has an R beside their name and the other has a D?

:dunno

just shooting from the hip here. 
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Was replying to like 5 posters here-  The difference is politicians vs government officials executing their duty.  I don't really care if HRC wants to burn her donors' dollars on a fake porno dossier.  Opposition research and even outright lying on the campaign scale is Constitutionally protected free speech.  

But I damn well care about those who used the force of government to win favor with Hilary by meddling in the election and subsequent administration.  Allowing government law enforcement to influence who is allowed to obtain office is the antithesis of democracy.  Federal cops and lawyers work for the elected officials, not the other way around.  The previous administration violated that to advance themselves in the eyes of the obvious victor Hilary.  If these people get off scott free then the next batch will do it again because no one policed the police. For the sake of our republic, heads must roll. 

 
Notre Dame Joe said:
Was replying to like 5 posters here-  The difference is politicians vs government officials executing their duty.  I don't really care if HRC wants to burn her donors' dollars on a fake porno dossier.  Opposition research and even outright lying on the campaign scale is Constitutionally protected free speech.  

But I damn well care about those who used the force of government to win favor with Hilary by meddling in the election and subsequent administration.  Allowing government law enforcement to influence who is allowed to obtain office is the antithesis of democracy.  Federal cops and lawyers work for the elected officials, not the other way around.  The previous administration violated that to advance themselves in the eyes of the obvious victor Hilary.  If these people get off scott free then the next batch will do it again because no one policed the police. For the sake of our republic, heads must roll. 
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Ummmm....no, ultimately they work for us and there is a thing called separation of powers. 

Let me ask you this. 

Why would a group of people who predominantly have been Republicans their entire lives all of a sudden want to do everything they can, including breaking the law (allegedly) and put their livelihood on the line to help a woman that republicans despise?

and....on a bunny trail....I thought we were supposed to trust the police and support them when they are being accused of doing wrong. 

Or, is that just the case when a black community protests against them?

 
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MNBigRedNorth said:
You keep saying there is evidence, but where is it!  So even IF Mueller did say there was contact, he seems to think that the was contact, wasn't collusion and was not illegal!  No charges, no nothing.  So he lifted sanction, he wanted to have a reset and try to get along.  Hey, Putin is a bad dude, and Trump sure slap some strong sanction since he's been in office, stronger than Obama.  Doesn't sound like he's in bed with them to me!
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You are so excited about a report that you think exonerated the president you voted for......Which didn’t totally. 

But, at the same time choose to ignore part of the same document that states the Russians did contact the Trump campaign, and they meddled in our election. We know Trumps team met with them and didn’t report it.....in fact lied about it over and over again. 

Then you ask.....where’s the evidence???

why do you believe one part of the document and not the other???

 
BigRedBuster said:
You are so excited about a report that you think exonerated the president you voted for......Which didn’t totally. 

But, at the same time choose to ignore part of the same document that states the Russians did contact the Trump campaign, and they meddled in our election. We know Trumps team met with them and didn’t report it.....in fact lied about it over and over again. 

Then you ask.....where’s the evidence???

why do you believe one part of the document and not the other???
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The old Wendy's commercial goes "Where's the Beef" I ask again, "Where's the Proof". Show it to me.  Oh it's just something Adam Shifft or some other lying politician said.  There is no proof, just hear say from people that obviously have been lying for over 2 years now. 

 
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