FLU

[BIGREDIOWAN]

Could I get an IP ban of FLU, I warned him about personal attacks in the gameday thread and trollish behavior. He continued with this behavior and enough was enough. The thread was getting out-of-control and I raised hskrprid's warning level for a personal attack on FLU earlier on in the thread. PM sent as well................

 

[AR Husker Fan]

Done. Got all three of his IP addresses, as well. Thanks!

 

[knapplc]

Both this guy and HuskerBCS have been given more than enough chances. I saw FLU going off in a couple of threads, but by the time I got back on, you had taken care of him.

Sorry I wasn't here for the meltdown. I had a better offer from the wife.

 

[BIGREDIOWAN]

Not a big deal I tried to let them vent, but it was getting worse and worse and finally I had to step in. I gave them a public warning and it just continued.............

 

[knapplc]

kid nickels is FLU, I'll bet my eye teeth on it.

He admitted he lives in Louisiana in THIS POST. And he's posting from an IP that FLU has posted from before, COX out of Baton Rouge.

70.172.247.215

I'm suggesting we permaban kid nickels as well.

Yet more proof: Trevor gave FLU the ban hammer after THIS POST at 10:45. At 10:58, kid nickels starts posting in the same thread HERE.

 

[AR Husker Fan]

Yeah, got them all. FLU has three IPs: 72.203.141.95, 72.203.132.83, and 207.29.222.247. kid nickels' IPs are 70.172.247.215, 98.181.11.47, and...207.29.222.247. The email addresses are completely different. I'd say that it's most likely they are friends or even roommates, but hard to say it's the same person based on the above. Do we have other reasons to ban? Any violations?

 

[knapplc]

Maybe this is me not understanding how the posting tool works. You have access to different stuff as an Admin than we have.

If you go to this page, you should see towards the bottom that this IP is used by FLU right up to the minute he was banned by Trevor, and then the posting picks up from kid nickels. To me that looks like they're both using the same IP, but if the info you have says FLU never posted from 70.172.247.215, then something I'm looking at is not right.

Actually looking back through the history of that IP it seems that kid nickels posts in the game threads from that address. Some gems:

I swear I'd eat a handful of my own sh#t to have the coaching staff from the mid 90s return for 5 years

Martinez always looks like sh#t in big games also

f#*k MY LIFE

We have some of the dumbest players in the country. How do these guys qualify academically?

We need to grind that fu&*#r into the turf.

Egregious? No. But FLU-like? Most definitely.

If you're telling me this isn't enough to get a ban, I understand. It's circumstantial, and it's possible these are two separate guys. We can do the "more rope" thing if you want.

 

[knapplc]

I suppose this would do as a smoking gun:

Come on, man -- I have been doing well with this username. No one knows it's me, and I have acquired more rep points in just a couple of weeks than I did over a period of years as FLU. Please don't out me.

 

[zoogs]

You know, haven't we had an issue with FLU before and multiple accounts? I did a search and couldn't turn anything up.

Circumventing a ban is not cool. We have every reason to ban him on this basis. I haven't read FLU's posts that got him the ban and can't rattle off his past offenses off the top of my head, so it's possible that he doesn't deserve any second considerations...although, it is atypical I would say, of band circumventers to attempt to be members here, or do anything other than cause serious trouble.

Hypothetically, if someone circumvents a ban and is on good behavior, do we let it stand? If they are on skirt-the-line, but not "egregious" behavior, do we still let them be a part of the board? Where's the line on that one?

 

[AR Husker Fan]

If someone gets banned, it's for good reason. We have to be one of the most liberal boards in terms of giving members a chance. So, if someone has a sock - whether created before or after a ban - we ban that account also. Yeah, they may have been okay under the sock, but the purpose of the ban is to ban the person, not simply the account. kid nickels is done.

 

[knapplc]

Hypothetically, if someone circumvents a ban and is on good behavior, do we let it stand? If they are on skirt-the-line, but not "egregious" behavior, do we still let them be a part of the board? Where's the line on that one?

This is a good point. I don't know how many of you other Mods go into the IP searching that I do. I kind of think I'm the "IP Cop" around here, and that, for the most part, I'm the guy who gets folks booted. I have no problem with that. I joined the Mod Team specifically to oust trolls. That hasn't changed for me.

But let's say Guy X has been banned. Let's say, after six/twelve months Guy X creates another account. Guy X behaves, is good people, and generally doesn't cause a problem under the new account. It's entirely possible that, being a snoop like I am, I'll know that Guy X is back. I'll watch for a while, and if he's being a good member of HuskerBoard, I'll not say anything.

I'm not saying this has happened. We're talking hypotheticals.

I agree with Frank that the purpose of the ban isn't to ban the NAME, it's to ban the guy - the problem. But forgive me if I haven't mentioned that Guy X is back, operating under a different name, and not causing problems. Folks do change, and if they're making HuskerBoard a better place.... I'm not going to give them grief.

Hope that's an OK philosophy.

 

[AR Husker Fan]

It is it. And, of course, if the new member starts acting up - perhaps not actually violating the rules but coming close - I'm sure you would "happen" to uncover that it's an account of a previously banned member, and we'd ban then.

 

[knapplc]

That's entirely possible.

Hypothetically.

 

[BIGREDIOWAN]

Baton Rouge Husker, got an e-mail from a member asking if this guy was flu. In one of his posts that are in the junkyard now he says his e-mail address is seanflu or something along those lines. What was FLU's e-mail address before?