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Archy1221 said:
I ain’t the one constantly thinking of him on HB my man!  
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We were just talking about Rittenhouse, and how bizarre it is that he would have his own management team to handle public appearances and lend his uhm "brand" to right-leaning uhm "nonprofits". And that when he recently "broke" with Trump over.....not being angry enough bout the 2nd Amendment?....the Trump team had to publicly woo him back, and Rittenhouse had to apologize before reasserting his endorsement. Why the fvck is anyone catering to this kid at all? 

It's not that Kyle is in liberal's heads. It's that the right wing continues to prop up the worst possible people for its hypocritical causes. 

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
Why the fvck is anyone catering to this kid at all? 
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It's a question I've often pondered myself. How anyone takes him seriously after he booger-sobbed his way through his criminal trial is beyond me. He was and always will be a childish moron.

It's not that Kyle is in liberal's heads. It's that the right wing continues to prop up the worst possible people for its hypocritical causes.
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Oh, I definitely think he's in liberal's heads, but it's for the reasons you mentioned. He continues to be propagated for right wing causes, so it's hard for the left to not be aware and thinking about him regularly. The real issue is more about where the fault lies for why he continues to be relevant at all. I think he's a pretty low-hanging fruit rallying point, almost like a freak show the right knows will rile up people on the left but otherwise isn't of much value.

 
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Guy Chamberlin said:
We were just talking about Rittenhouse, and how bizarre it is that he would have his own management team to handle public appearances and lend his uhm "brand" to right-leaning uhm "nonprofits". And that when he recently "broke" with Trump over.....not being angry enough bout the 2nd Amendment?....the Trump team had to publicly woo him back, and Rittenhouse had to apologize before reasserting his endorsement. Why the fvck is anyone catering to this kid at all? 

It's not that Kyle is in liberal's heads. It's that the right wing continues to prop up the worst possible people for its hypocritical causes. 
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It's typical MAGA.  They have someone who is a pathetic human be a major part of their political movement.  When someone criticizes that person.....they are said to be obsessing over him.

Well, if you don't want this poor soul to be criticized, then stop parading him out like he's a hero for America.

 
Enhance said:
It's a question I've often pondered myself. How anyone takes him seriously after he booger-sobbed his way through his criminal trial is beyond me. He was and always will be a childish moron.

Oh, I definitely think he's in liberal's heads, but it's for the reasons you mentioned. He continues to be propagated for right wing causes, so it's hard for the left to not be aware and thinking about him regularly. The real issue is more about where the fault lies for why he continues to be relevant at all. I think he's a pretty low-hanging fruit rallying point, almost like a freak show the right knows will rile up people on the left but otherwise isn't of much value.
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If I were to venture a guess on why some right or father right leaning groups feel the need to have Kyle as “spokesman” “speaker at an event” etc….is most likely that they view him as a symbol of either why the second amendment should exist in their minds or as a symbol of what an unjust prosecution looks like.   The latter is kinda like how the Left hails George Floyd as some type of hero deserving of statues and murals because he died in part from terrible police work.  In reality though, the guy was a total piece of s#!t.   yet he’s a hero for a cause to some groups. 
 

Kyle doesn’t deserve to be praised and held out as a role model because his actions since the trial show he isn’t.  Looks like some of his history before the shooting shows he shouldn’t be.  
 

 
Archy1221 said:
If I were to venture a guess on why some right or father right leaning groups feel the need to have Kyle as “spokesman” “speaker at an event” etc….is most likely that they view him as a symbol of either why the second amendment should exist in their minds or as a symbol of what an unjust prosecution looks like.   The latter is kinda like how the Left hails George Floyd as some type of hero deserving of statues and murals because he died in part from terrible police work.  In reality though, the guy was a total piece of s#!t.   yet he’s a hero for a cause to some groups. 
 

Kyle doesn’t deserve to be praised and held out as a role model because his actions since the trial show he isn’t.  Looks like some of his history before the shooting shows he shouldn’t be.  
 
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I gotta admit, whenever I saw George Floyd depicted on somebody's street mural I thought "oh God, he's definitely a victim, but please, please don't make him a hero."

 
Archy1221 said:
If I were to venture a guess on why some right or father right leaning groups feel the need to have Kyle as “spokesman” “speaker at an event” etc….is most likely that they view him as a symbol of either why the second amendment should exist in their minds or as a symbol of what an unjust prosecution looks like.   The latter is kinda like how the Left hails George Floyd as some type of hero deserving of statues and murals because he died in part from terrible police work.  In reality though, the guy was a total piece of s#!t.   yet he’s a hero for a cause to some groups. 
 

Kyle doesn’t deserve to be praised and held out as a role model because his actions since the trial show he isn’t.  Looks like some of his history before the shooting shows he shouldn’t be.  
 
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I agree with this perspective and think you're probably right. Politicians and radicalized political groups love to propagate people for all the wrong reasons. 

Specifically to KR, I have largely ignored anything related to him since his trial concluded. He still creeps into my feeds sometimes, but to use a term my niece taught me... he gives me "the ick" and I usually keep scrolling. I get why he's become a punching bag, though. I think he probably resonates well with portions of the Republican base for the reasons you mentioned but, outside of those segments, he looks like a fool and is an easy target for a joke.

I obviously have no facts to back this up, but I feel like a vast majority of Americans wish that kid wasn't being given any air time.

 
Archy1221 said:
The latter is kinda like how the Left hails George Floyd as some type of hero deserving of statues and murals because he died in part from terrible police work.  In reality though, the guy was a total piece of s#!t.   yet he’s a hero for a cause to some groups. 
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While painting him as a hero for black people everywhere hailing him as some type of hero deserving of statues and murals is, in my opinion, unnecessary and silly, and also predictable, delegating him to nothing more than a piece of s#!t is quite hyperbolic. He certainly had a flawed past, mostly relating to a neverending struggle with sobriety, but was also very well known and respected in his community as a volunteer and mentor and anti-violence advocate for young boys, at homeless shelters, etc. My best friend's father was the officer who ran Salvation Army Harbor Light in Minneapolis where he worked and volunteered and was a presence for years, and I know firsthand testimony from many as to his kindness and generosity and positive impact (and struggles) in a place defined by homelessness, violence, drug abuse and criminality.

Edit: Changed my language because archy thought I was putting words in his mouth.

 
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