Looking Back ... Looking Forward

[TheSker]

But I can guarantee that we won't see Jerry Kill make him look like a fool.

I've known Jerry Kill for nearly 30 years and would offer caution about such a guarantee. Kill's background, knowledge and resume are excellent. He's from the Dennis Franchione/Gary Patterson coaching lineage.

Jerry Kill is a decent coach and he's had some moderate success at Minnesota. But any coach with half a brain could watch the tape of the games the last two years where they beat us and could see that if you just make adjustments then you more likely than not stop them. All they did was run zone read and use their TE's. Good coaches adjust. Your boy Bo never did that and it cost him.

Pelini isn't my boy, but the jab is fine. I'd take Kill in a New York minute. Minnesota isn't the first or only place he's had success.

 

[Count 'Bility]

What I find silly is the idea that if Riley doesn't win 10? 11? games in Year One, it would somehow prove something one way or another. That's a standard that seems to be applied only to Mike Riley.

It seems that way because of low sample size of a coach taking over for a fired coach who won at a high level percentage-wise. Nebraska is now a two time participant.

weird considering win percentage in both instances were probably the least of the reasons.

 

[TheSker]

What I find silly is the idea that if Riley doesn't win 10? 11? games in Year One, it would somehow prove something one way or another. That's a standard that seems to be applied only to Mike Riley.

It seems that way because of low sample size of a coach taking over for a fired coach who won at a high level percentage-wise. Nebraska is now a two time participant.

weird considering win percentage in both instances were probably the least of the reasons.

Weird? Of course a high winning percentage isn't on the list of reasons to fire a coach.

 

[admo]

But I can guarantee that we won't see Jerry Kill make him look like a fool.

I've known Jerry Kill for nearly 30 years and would offer caution about such a guarantee. Kill's background, knowledge and resume are excellent. He's from the Dennis Franchione/Gary Patterson coaching lineage.

Jerry Kill is a decent coach and he's had some moderate success at Minnesota. But any coach with half a brain could watch the tape of the games the last two years where they beat us and could see that if you just make adjustments then you more likely than not stop them. All they did was run zone read and use their TE's. Good coaches adjust. Your boy Bo never did that and it cost him.

Pelini isn't my boy, but the jab is fine. I'd take Kill in a New York minute. Minnesota isn't the first or only place he's had success.

Jerry Kill, 0-5 in bowl games, career 25-26 at Minnesota, career 23-16 at Northern Illinois. Yet you have repeatedly shown disapproval for Mike Riley with condescending remarks towards his career record, as well as him needing to win more than 9 games this year. Kill's record is terrible. This is complete irony, yet you clearly said it's ok because you would take Kill in a NY minute.

How many games would Kill win at Nebraska next year? 11?

(10 being the minimum because when you upgrade coaching on a winning team, they should win more)

 

[The Dude]

I guess I don't understand the fixation with immediate results. I think if we're all being honest with ourselves, we would agree the immediate future doesn't look particularly bright, and that has more to do with Pelini than it does Riley. Laying it all at Riley's feet reeks of Boliever logic.

I agree and don't think there has to be immediate improvement. But are you expecting the W-L record to get worse?

I would expect it to get worse if Bo & Co were still here. I think Abdullah & Gregory masked a lot of issues we had. I think we were staring down the barrel of a 7-5 season with losses to Miami, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan State, and Iowa. With a couple blowout losses sprinkled in there.
I honestly have no clue what to expect now. If I had a to guess, I'd say probably 9-3 with losses to Miami, Wisconsin, and Michigan State. No blowouts. But that would be a wild guess, maybe it's the optimism talking. From a roster standpoint, 7-5 isn't inconceivable.. We're still not sure who is going to start at QB, RB, and 4/5 of the offensive line. That's a lot of questions at very vital positions.

We'll have a better idea of what to expect after the non-con.

I wouldn't get too upset with people getting excited about these new coaches. They're going out of their way to embrace Husker Nation and showing the fans what they're all about. That's new around here, and there's a lot to be excited about. Maybe the old guys got a bad rap, but that's partially their fault, from hiding away in their bunker and constantly being at odds with fans and media. So, ya' know, f#*k 'em.

 

[RunRedRun]

I guess I don't understand the fixation with immediate results. I think if we're all being honest with ourselves, we would agree the immediate future doesn't look particularly bright, and that has more to do with Pelini than it does Riley. Laying it all at Riley's feet reeks of Boliever logic.

I agree and don't think there has to be immediate improvement. But are you expecting the W-L record to get worse?

I would expect it to get worse if Bo & Co were still here. I think Abdullah & Gregory masked a lot of issues we had. I think we were staring down the barrel of a 7-5 season with losses to Miami, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan State, and Iowa. With a couple blowout losses sprinkled in there.
I honestly have no clue what to expect now. If I had a to guess, I'd say probably 9-3 with losses to Miami, Wisconsin, and Michigan State. No blowouts. But that would be a wild guess, maybe it's the optimism talking. From a roster standpoint, 7-5 isn't inconceivable.. We're still not sure who is going to start at QB, RB, and 4/5 of the offensive line. That's a lot of questions at very vital positions.

We'll have a better idea of what to expect after the non-con.

I wouldn't get too upset with people getting excited about these new coaches. They're going out of their way to embrace Husker Nation and showing the fans what they're all about. That's new around here, and there's a lot to be excited about. Maybe the old guys got a bad rap, but that's partially their fault, from hiding away in their bunker and constantly being at odds with fans and media. So, ya' know, f#*k 'em.

X1000

 

[Count 'Bility]

What I find silly is the idea that if Riley doesn't win 10? 11? games in Year One, it would somehow prove something one way or another. That's a standard that seems to be applied only to Mike Riley.

It seems that way because of low sample size of a coach taking over for a fired coach who won at a high level percentage-wise. Nebraska is now a two time participant.

weird considering win percentage in both instances were probably the least of the reasons.

Weird? Of course a high winning percentage isn't on the list of reasons to fire a coach.

exactly. So why bring it up? Why point it out?

 

[TheSker]

What I find silly is the idea that if Riley doesn't win 10? 11? games in Year One, it would somehow prove something one way or another. That's a standard that seems to be applied only to Mike Riley.

It seems that way because of low sample size of a coach taking over for a fired coach who won at a high level percentage-wise. Nebraska is now a two time participant.

weird considering win percentage in both instances were probably the least of the reasons.

Weird? Of course a high winning percentage isn't on the list of reasons to fire a coach.

exactly. So why bring it up? Why point it out?

Umm....because it was a response to the post by Zoogs why Mike Riley should win immediately.

 

[TheSker]

Jerry Kill, 0-5 in bowl games, career 25-26 at Minnesota, career 23-16 at Northern Illinois. Yet you have repeatedly shown disapproval for Mike Riley with condescending remarks towards his career record, as well as him needing to win more than 9 games this year. Kill's record is terrible. This is complete irony, yet you clearly said it's ok because you would take Kill in a NY minute.

You are correct on Kill's bowl record in his past 5 bowls. However, Minnesota and Northern Illinois do not comprise Kill's career record and his career record is not terrible. It's pretty good.

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

I have come to the conclusion that TheSker would have bitched regardless of who Our new HC is.

 

[Saunders]

I guess I don't understand the fixation with immediate results. I think if we're all being honest with ourselves, we would agree the immediate future doesn't look particularly bright, and that has more to do with Pelini than it does Riley. Laying it all at Riley's feet reeks of Boliever logic.

"Boliever logic"

JFC....

All we've heard since Riley has been hired is what a great coach he is, how he did so much with so little at Oregon State, how he maximized the talent he had, how he's a teacher and he and his staff will adapt to the talent on hand, etc...

It's really quite simple to see. Nebraska under Pelini averaged a better class that Riley ever recruited at Oregon State. We also play in the garbage division of the Big Ten (where we also out recruit our peers). We've got more raw talent than he ever had, with a weaker schedule than Oregon State has had in a long time.

Let's not give him the excuses that Bo got (oh Bo just needs to replace Bill's guys with his own) as a crutch.

If Riley is as good as advertised, he'll win, and it will start this year.

And for the record, I think we get to at least #9wins in the regular season.

 

[Saunders]

People saying that Bo winning 9 games every year need to realize that the last 4 years we've had a fairly easy schedule. We beat up on Southern Miss and FAU. But get stomped by UCLA, Wisconsin, MSU, Ohio State, Iowa in 2012, and Minnesota. So basically any team with a pulse was coaching circles around the old staff.

Riley will do fine. Everyone just needs to give him a chance. Let him install his systems and see what happens. But I can guarantee that we won't see Jerry Kill make him look like a fool.

I must have missed the note about Nebraska moving to the SEC this season.

 

[Mierin]

Jerry Kill, 0-5 in bowl games, career 25-26 at Minnesota, career 23-16 at Northern Illinois. Yet you have repeatedly shown disapproval for Mike Riley with condescending remarks towards his career record, as well as him needing to win more than 9 games this year. Kill's record is terrible. This is complete irony, yet you clearly said it's ok because you would take Kill in a NY minute.

You are correct on Kill's bowl record in his past 5 bowls. However, Minnesota and Northern Illinois do not comprise Kill's career record and his career record is not terrible. It's pretty good.

Ya. 16 years ago he went 38-14 at storied Saginaw Valley State University. And after that he went 11-11 at Emporia State. Clearly he's miles ahead of Mike Riley.

I think Kill is a great coach but admo makes a great point here. You make no sense.

 

[ADS]

People saying that Bo winning 9 games every year need to realize that the last 4 years we've had a fairly easy schedule. We beat up on Southern Miss and FAU. But get stomped by UCLA, Wisconsin, MSU, Ohio State, Iowa in 2012, and Minnesota. So basically any team with a pulse was coaching circles around the old staff.

Riley will do fine. Everyone just needs to give him a chance. Let him install his systems and see what happens. But I can guarantee that we won't see Jerry Kill make him look like a fool.

I must have missed the note about Nebraska moving to the SEC this season.

Wut

 

[Saunders]

People saying that Bo winning 9 games every year need to realize that the last 4 years we've had a fairly easy schedule. We beat up on Southern Miss and FAU. But get stomped by UCLA, Wisconsin, MSU, Ohio State, Iowa in 2012, and Minnesota. So basically any team with a pulse was coaching circles around the old staff.

Riley will do fine. Everyone just needs to give him a chance. Let him install his systems and see what happens. But I can guarantee that we won't see Jerry Kill make him look like a fool.

I must have missed the note about Nebraska moving to the SEC this season.

Wut

We're playing the same schedule....