Michael Jordan: GOAT
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admo
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admo
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Can you wonder with today's game, the importance of the 3-point shot, how well Larry Legend would have done each night? He never shot more than 3 a game on average. Bird would perhaps sink 8-10 of those shots each night, plus his rebounding, passing and running fast breaks, mid-range shots and free throws. If he was selfish he could have scored 40 a night.
Guy Chamberlin
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In the middle of his run he was getting bored and Bird announced to his teammates that he would play left-handed against the Trailblazers just for kicks.
47 points. 14 rebounds. 11 assists.
He reverted to right hand a bit in the fourth quarter. Still.
admo
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He was among the 4 or 5 GOAT(s), depending on who you ask. And in era when the NBA was struggling until Bird and Magic.
Thankful for Jordan coming along shortly after. MJ is considered the GOAT, and I have nothing against people who believe that. He might have been. I think Jordan is definitely 1 of the 5 goat(s).
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Guy Chamberlin
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Some of the all-time greats are playing in the NBA right now.
LeBron, Curry, Giannis, Durant for sure. I have a problem with Chris Paul, but most folks say he's already there.
We're in the early days of Luka, Ja Morant, LaMelo Ball, this Panchero rookie, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander They could be legends. Jokic just needs a couple more seasons. Maybe Embid. Devin Booker.
A healthy and motivated Kawhi Leonard could have been an all-timer. His door is closing. Zion Williamson looked like a generational talent, but every time you look up, he's not playing. He's got time, but you gotta wonder if that body is gonna betray him.
Every game I also see young — like really young — players I don't recognize with cold-blooded moves and instincts taking it to veteran teams. OKC was not the least bit intimidated by LeBron, Anthony Davis, and the Forum crowd.
Anyone else you think might be an all-timer we're watching in the early stages?
LeBron, Curry, Giannis, Durant for sure. I have a problem with Chris Paul, but most folks say he's already there.
We're in the early days of Luka, Ja Morant, LaMelo Ball, this Panchero rookie, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander They could be legends. Jokic just needs a couple more seasons. Maybe Embid. Devin Booker.
A healthy and motivated Kawhi Leonard could have been an all-timer. His door is closing. Zion Williamson looked like a generational talent, but every time you look up, he's not playing. He's got time, but you gotta wonder if that body is gonna betray him.
Every game I also see young — like really young — players I don't recognize with cold-blooded moves and instincts taking it to veteran teams. OKC was not the least bit intimidated by LeBron, Anthony Davis, and the Forum crowd.
Anyone else you think might be an all-timer we're watching in the early stages?
Slow yer Roll
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"LeBron, Curry, Giannis, Durant for sure. I have a problem with Chris Paul, but most folks say he's already there.
We're in the early days of Luka, Ja Morant, LaMelo Ball, this Panchero rookie, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander They could be legends. Jokic just needs a couple more seasons. Maybe Embid. Devin Booker."
I wouldn't walk across the street to see any of them if the tickets were free.
We used to adjust work schedules to watch bulls playoff games.
We're in the early days of Luka, Ja Morant, LaMelo Ball, this Panchero rookie, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander They could be legends. Jokic just needs a couple more seasons. Maybe Embid. Devin Booker."
I wouldn't walk across the street to see any of them if the tickets were free.
We used to adjust work schedules to watch bulls playoff games.
Guy Chamberlin
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Who didn't love watching the Bulls in their prime?
I've been an NBA fan since the '72 Lakers, but I have no problem giving the new players their due. If you're stuck in the Jordan era, you're missing some great ball.
Jason Sitoke
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admo
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NBA Most-Valuable Player Award - since 1970.
Jordan's first year in league was 1984-85.
Magic Johnson started career in 1979-80, last year in 1990-91
Larry Bird started career in 1979-80, last year in 1991-92
1970-71 - Jabbar
1971-72 - Jabbar
1972-73 - Cowens
1973-74 - Jabbar
1974-75 - McAdoo
1975-76 - Jabbar
1976-77 - Jabbar
1977-78 - Walton
1978-79 - Moses Malone
1979-80 - Jabbar
1980-81 - Dr J Irving
1981-82 - Moses Malone
1982-83 - Moses Malone
1983-84 - Bird
1984-85 - Bird
1985-86 - Bird
1986-87 - Magic
1987-88 - Jordan
1988-89 - Magic
1989-90 - Magic
1990-91 - Jordan
1991-92 - Jordan
1992-93 - Charles Barkley
1993-94 - Olajuwon
1994-95 - Robinson
1995-96 - Jordan
1996-97 - Karl Malone
1997-98 - Jordan
1998-99 - Karl Malone
1999-00 - Shaq Fu O'Neal
2000-01 - Allen Iverson
2001-02 - Duncan
2002-03 - Duncan
2003-04 - Garnett
2004-05 - Steve Nash
2005-06 - Steve Nash
2006-07 - Dirk Nowitzki
2007-08 - Kobe
2008-09 - LeBron
2009-10 - LeBron
2010-11 - Rose
2011-12 - LeBron
2012-13 - LeBron
2013-14 - Durrant
2014-15 - Curry
2015-16 - Curry
2016-17 - Westbrook
2017-18 - Harden
2018-19 - Giannis
2019-20 - Giannis
2020-21 - Nikola Jokic
2021-22 - Nikola Jokic
Jordan's first year in league was 1984-85.
Magic Johnson started career in 1979-80, last year in 1990-91
Larry Bird started career in 1979-80, last year in 1991-92
1970-71 - Jabbar
1971-72 - Jabbar
1972-73 - Cowens
1973-74 - Jabbar
1974-75 - McAdoo
1975-76 - Jabbar
1976-77 - Jabbar
1977-78 - Walton
1978-79 - Moses Malone
1979-80 - Jabbar
1980-81 - Dr J Irving
1981-82 - Moses Malone
1982-83 - Moses Malone
1983-84 - Bird
1984-85 - Bird
1985-86 - Bird
1986-87 - Magic
1987-88 - Jordan
1988-89 - Magic
1989-90 - Magic
1990-91 - Jordan
1991-92 - Jordan
1992-93 - Charles Barkley
1993-94 - Olajuwon
1994-95 - Robinson
1995-96 - Jordan
1996-97 - Karl Malone
1997-98 - Jordan
1998-99 - Karl Malone
1999-00 - Shaq Fu O'Neal
2000-01 - Allen Iverson
2001-02 - Duncan
2002-03 - Duncan
2003-04 - Garnett
2004-05 - Steve Nash
2005-06 - Steve Nash
2006-07 - Dirk Nowitzki
2007-08 - Kobe
2008-09 - LeBron
2009-10 - LeBron
2010-11 - Rose
2011-12 - LeBron
2012-13 - LeBron
2013-14 - Durrant
2014-15 - Curry
2015-16 - Curry
2016-17 - Westbrook
2017-18 - Harden
2018-19 - Giannis
2019-20 - Giannis
2020-21 - Nikola Jokic
2021-22 - Nikola Jokic
Guy Chamberlin
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I loved Moses Malone. Gets left out of a lot of the debates, but he was a serious force and a winner.
Where do Harden and Westbrook end up?
I don't like their games and they don't win championships, but they've got a lot of big numbers.
Where do Harden and Westbrook end up?
I don't like their games and they don't win championships, but they've got a lot of big numbers.
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Mavric
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Saw this posted today:
Career Stats:
Steph Curry: 24.5 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 6.5 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.2 BPG, 3.1 TOPG
Russell Westbrook: 22.5 PPG, 7.3 RPG, 8.4 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.3 BPG, 4.1 TOPG
So Curry gets one more basket per game. Westbrook as a significant edge in rebounding and assists. Curry with the edge in turnovers. Others basically even.
Harden: 24.8 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 7.0 APG, 1.5 SPG, 0.5 BPG, 3.7 TOPG
So you'd probably have to go Westbrook > Harden > Curry on all-around games. I thought Curry might have more of an edge in not turning the ball over but not really that much.
Huskerfollower4life
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MJ got screwed in 1992-1993 season vs Barkley. MJ was the better player and the 1996-1997 season as well.
