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Quantrill_Half-Assed_It

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As a lifelong Tiger fan, I hate and always have hated Kansas. Unconditionally, unequivocally, and irrationally. When they are the issue, facts and reason leave my mind.

I don't feel that way about any other team, including Nebraska. I'm in my mid-30's and, as such, grew up admiring the success of Nebraska's programs. For a host of reasons, the recent years have been kind to Mizzou while Nebraska has been working its way through a series of transitions, from Osborne to Solich, Solich to Callahan, and Callahan to Pelini. I was there in Columbia when the Tigers beat Nebraska for the first time in nearly 30 years. I was there in Lincoln last year when the Tigers scored 52 points during Nebraska's homecoming. That those 2 events transpired, that we find ourselves in a position where the Mizzou-Nebraska game has become such an important part of every season, and that the series has become generally competitive, are things I always hoped for but which I never necessarily expected to happen. Obviously, these recent events have caused a host of reactions. I'm sure that if you've visited Tigerboard and tried to engage in legitimate discourse, you've been disappointed in the responses. I've seen some of the same stuff while lurking on this board.

I assure you I'm not looking to get involved in any of that stuff. Instead, I seek your all's perspectives on your team and what you've seen out of them so far. I've attended all the Tiger games, so I haven't been able to see a snap of Nebraska's season. What I'm wondering, specifically, is whether you think that Nebraska will beat Mizzou on October 8th? If so, why do you feel that way? Are the Huskers better than last year and, if so, in what areas? Or are you thinking that Mizzou has simply fallen off with the loss of Daniel, Maclin, Coffman, et al.? From my perspective, this Tiger team is definitely different and we certainly don't have anyone of Maclin's caliber. We do still have a lot of good pieces though, including several young players who played parts in what was a 5-touchdown win in Lincoln last year.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

 
Just kidding. Thanks for joining, I look forward to your input...

We are a different team, a young team... Suh is our anchor on a defense full of young players. The young guys seem to be getting better, playing faster, and hitting harder each week.

On offense, we are similar... our new QB saw his first action in a hostile environment last weekend and I think he will rebound. He has a better skillset than Ganz, but not quite the experience yet. We are going to have a balanced attack similar to last year. We don't have any stand our receivers right now, so not a lot to fear there.

All in all, we have a similar team to last year in concept... but we are faster and smarter this year. I think it will be a hard faught game.

 
First off welcome to the board and I apologize for anyone that has given you bad feelings towards the board thus far.

IMO the Huskers are better this year on the defensive side of the ball, but probably the same on the offensive side of the ball. Our defensive line is very good and will give Gabbert fits and test him early in his career. Our linebackers are the weakness of our defense as they are young and still learning what to look for. Our secondary is okay/good at best, they have done some really great things this season and a few bad things, but they are much improved.

On the offensive side of the ball I don't think we've fallen off at all at QB even if Lee did have a bad game last weekend. Helu is an outstanding back that can hurt you if you give him even a little room to run. Our receivers are young, but talented, however they've dropped a few balls this season, but that will resolve itself with time. The weakness of our offense is the offensive line and it pains me to say that. We all thought that our offensive line would be fantastic this season, but they are just okay.

IMO we have a real shot at beating Missouri this season in Columbia as I think our defense will pressure Gabbert all day and not give him time to get comfortable. The problem is we haven't seen the Tigers play anyone of really decent caliber yet so we don't know how to gauge them. VT showed us that we are a darn good football team, but we aren't where we need to be.

 
BIGREDIOWAN said:
First off welcome to the board and I apologize for anyone that has given you bad feelings towards the board thus far.

IMO the Huskers are better this year on the defensive side of the ball, but probably the same on the offensive side of the ball. Our defensive line is very good and will give Gabbert fits and test him early in his career. Our linebackers are the weakness of our defense as they are young and still learning what to look for. Our secondary is okay/good at best, they have done some really great things this season and a few bad things, but they are much improved.

On the offensive side of the ball I don't think we've fallen off at all at QB even if Lee did have a bad game last weekend. Helu is an outstanding back that can hurt you if you give him even a little room to run. Our receivers are young, but talented, however they've dropped a few balls this season, but that will resolve itself with time. The weakness of our offense is the offensive line and it pains me to say that. We all thought that our offensive line would be fantastic this season, but they are just okay.

IMO we have a real shot at beating Missouri this season in Columbia as I think our defense will pressure Gabbert all day and not give him time to get comfortable. The problem is we haven't seen the Tigers play anyone of really decent caliber yet so we don't know how to gauge them. VT showed us that we are a darn good football team, but we aren't where we need to be.
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i have to disagree....our Oline has played very good and physical football, having watched all three games i would say that our line is much improved over last season and is probably one of the top 2 Olines in the big 12!

 
Quantrill_Half-Assed_It said:
As a lifelong Tiger fan, I hate and always have hated Kansas. Unconditionally, unequivocally, and irrationally. When they are the issue, facts and reason leave my mind.

I don't feel that way about any other team, including Nebraska. I'm in my mid-30's and, as such, grew up admiring the success of Nebraska's programs. For a host of reasons, the recent years have been kind to Mizzou while Nebraska has been working its way through a series of transitions, from Osborne to Solich, Solich to Callahan, and Callahan to Pelini. I was there in Columbia when the Tigers beat Nebraska for the first time in nearly 30 years. I was there in Lincoln last year when the Tigers scored 52 points during Nebraska's homecoming. That those 2 events transpired, that we find ourselves in a position where the Mizzou-Nebraska game has become such an important part of every season, and that the series has become generally competitive, are things I always hoped for but which I never necessarily expected to happen. Obviously, these recent events have caused a host of reactions. I'm sure that if you've visited Tigerboard and tried to engage in legitimate discourse, you've been disappointed in the responses. I've seen some of the same stuff while lurking on this board.

I assure you I'm not looking to get involved in any of that stuff. Instead, I seek your all's perspectives on your team and what you've seen out of them so far. I've attended all the Tiger games, so I haven't been able to see a snap of Nebraska's season. What I'm wondering, specifically, is whether you think that Nebraska will beat Mizzou on October 8th? If so, why do you feel that way? Are the Huskers better than last year and, if so, in what areas? Or are you thinking that Mizzou has simply fallen off with the loss of Daniel, Maclin, Coffman, et al.? From my perspective, this Tiger team is definitely different and we certainly don't have anyone of Maclin's caliber. We do still have a lot of good pieces though, including several young players who played parts in what was a 5-touchdown win in Lincoln last year.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
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And I will hate Missouri until my heart beats it's last. Except Tuff Tiger, I like him. He is special.

As for your team, they are not so consitent, I think they will come in third, and Gabbert is a pretty darn good talent and I hate him for it. MU is a bit hard to peg still, IMO.

Nebrask probably takes it this year, but it could be a really good game and I look forward to it. I just think Nebraska has more depth of experienced talent, but their new QB may not be as good as yours, so I put that as your best hope for a win. Could happen.

Rock Chalk and see you at Arrowhead.

 
The game on Oct. 8th will be a lot different then last years game. There will be a lot more speed and a lot less missed tackles. I also expect a lot different things from Mizzou. You guys are just as young and you also have a lot team speed. It will be a fun game. :box :box

 
And your name is really rude. The man was a war criminal who killed unarmed men and boys. Why you would glorify that, and worse claim he should have done worse..all that were lef were women and babies, I guess he missed those and should have finished em off? You all were on the wrong side of that whole mess, I definiitely would not draw attention to it and try to glorify it. Maybe it Missouri it is funny, but I would think most rational people would find it appalling. It is not like anyone disputes what happened.

Here is wikipedia's take on his action...

Early on the morning of August 21, Quantrill descended from Mount Oread and attacked Lawrence at the head of a combined force of as many as 450 guerrillas. Senator Lane, a prime target of the raid, managed to escape through a cornfield in his nightshirt, but the bushwhackers, on Quantrill's orders, killed 183 men and boys "old enough to carry a rifle", dragging many from their homes to execute them before their families. The ages of those killed ranged from as young as 14 all the way up to 90. When Quantrill's men rode out at 9 a.m., most of Lawrence's buildings were burning, including all but two businesses. His raiders looted indiscriminately and robbed the town's bank.

You brought it up, I am gonna call it out....

 
jayhawk said:
And your name is really rude. The man was a war criminal who killed unarmed men and boys. Why you would glorify that, and worse claim he should have done worse..all that were lef were women and babies, I guess he missed those and should have finished em off? You all were on the wrong side of that whole mess, I definiitely would not draw attention to it and try to glorify it. Maybe it Missouri it is funny, but I would think most rational people would find it appalling. It is not like anyone disputes what happened.

Here is wikipedia's take on his action...

Early on the morning of August 21, Quantrill descended from Mount Oread and attacked Lawrence at the head of a combined force of as many as 450 guerrillas. Senator Lane, a prime target of the raid, managed to escape through a cornfield in his nightshirt, but the bushwhackers, on Quantrill's orders, killed 183 men and boys "old enough to carry a rifle", dragging many from their homes to execute them before their families. The ages of those killed ranged from as young as 14 all the way up to 90. When Quantrill's men rode out at 9 a.m., most of Lawrence's buildings were burning, including all but two businesses. His raiders looted indiscriminately and robbed the town's bank.

You brought it up, I am gonna call it out....
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he attacked kansas? not really sure who or when this happened...

 
That's a pretty messed up name if you're glorifying someone who murdered children and someone who murdered other Americans.

I think it'll be a good game and I really wouldn't be surprised to see either team win. After the Vtech game though, I don't see how anyone in the Big 12 North can't be afraid of Nebraska's defense. I realize that Vtech isn't an offensive powerhouse, but we played a damn good game and controlled a good team at their house with a new QB. I think we will win the north if we play like that the rest of the season. Our D will only get better as they did last year, and while I think Gabbert is a good QB, I still don't think he'll be terribly effective against a powerful pass rushing attack and a pretty good secondary. Helu has shown he can run it on even the most stout defenses. We'll see what happens, but I can't wait for the game.

 
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IM sorry didnt a bunch of people say we would win the va tech game and didnt. Sorry, countin this one as a loss, we beat them next year. Better more experienced qb and home advantage.

 
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AF Husker Fan said:
jayhawk said:
And your name is really rude. The man was a war criminal who killed unarmed men and boys. Why you would glorify that, and worse claim he should have done worse..all that were lef were women and babies, I guess he missed those and should have finished em off? You all were on the wrong side of that whole mess, I definiitely would not draw attention to it and try to glorify it. Maybe it Missouri it is funny, but I would think most rational people would find it appalling. It is not like anyone disputes what happened.

Here is wikipedia's take on his action...

Early on the morning of August 21, Quantrill descended from Mount Oread and attacked Lawrence at the head of a combined force of as many as 450 guerrillas. Senator Lane, a prime target of the raid, managed to escape through a cornfield in his nightshirt, but the bushwhackers, on Quantrill's orders, killed 183 men and boys "old enough to carry a rifle", dragging many from their homes to execute them before their families. The ages of those killed ranged from as young as 14 all the way up to 90. When Quantrill's men rode out at 9 a.m., most of Lawrence's buildings were burning, including all but two businesses. His raiders looted indiscriminately and robbed the town's bank.

You brought it up, I am gonna call it out....
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he attacked kansas? not really sure who or when this happened...
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william quantrill. i agree with jayhawk, that'd be like me going to a hoosier board and saying my name was john hunt morgan half assed it.

 
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