Next Year's QB poll

[Micheal]

Lee

 

[huskerfan500]

It's not a good sign if Cody Green is our starting QB next year. Anyone who wants him to start is basically saying I want the Huskers to suck in 2009.

Zac Lee was the top JUCO QB in the country back in 2006. Since then, he has been at Nebraska for two seasons, played scout team ball, and looked awesome in his limited performance against K-State. I realize my grandma would look good against K-State. But he had 2 carries for 17 yards and led NU on a scoring drive in the fourth quarter. His athleticsm was clearly evident.

2 weeks ago I posted how I believed Lee would win the starting job over Witt. IMO, Witt knew that would eventually happen as well. Green will not overcome Zac Lee. Some people need to take a step back and understand from an athleticsm standpoint, Zac Lee is every bit the weapon of a Cody Green. The only advantage Green has is a bigger body.

Lee runs a legit 4.5 and the strongest arm on the team. Next season will also be the 3rd season he's been at Nebraska.

How could anyone honestly want Cody Green to be the starter over Lee? Some of you are acting like Cody Green was the #1 QB recruit in the country.

So what I think you are getting at is that a freshman QB cannot win?

To that I say- Terell Pryor, Tim Tebow (granted he was a scenario guy), Colt McCoy, Robert Griffin (at fricken Baylor), Matthew Staford, Chris Leak, Mitch Mustain, and Chad Henne.

I think NU has enough talent (running game and defense) that Green, if he has good as everyone thinks, could start and win.

i dont see why everyone thinks he is gonna be all that good. yeah he looked good in HS, but he hasnt done anything in college. Lee was very good in JUCO and was actually a 5.9 rated 4 star qb when he got to lincoln, whereas Green was a 5.8 rated 4 star. Green seems like maybe just "the next big thing?"

as someone else has said, greens only real advantage is in his size as lee is also listed as faster. if you want a qb that is good at both passing and running then right now, lee is your guy.

Also, it can be said that throwing a freshman into the fire too soon can permanently damage his confidence if he doesnt win right away.

So you think that Tebow, Pryor, McCoy (whom did not start as a true freshman), and Griffin can win as freshmen, so why cant green?

To that i say- For every Pryor or Griffin, etc. you have a freeman or any of the countless other 4 star qbs that never lived up to hype or never even started a game.....

yes, i am sure that we have enough talent to win with green at qb but the question is,"will we win more games with lee or green starting?"

answer: Lee

What has Lee done in college? Led one touchdown drive. And as for Freeman I am pretty sure NU has more talent than K-State had, not quite as much as the other guys (except Griffin) but still NU and K-state are on a different level.

And recuirting ratings as mentioned a thousand times before dont always determine who is good or not. And btw JUCO competition is a lot of times not even that good, and comparable to Texas high school football. JUCO's usually dont have that good of tape to rate players on, not saying that this is the case but Jeremy Crabtree has warned about these things before.

I am not saying Lee is not capable because most likely he will start next year, but I think NU would benefit with having a four year guy in there, if he is capable- which from what I have heard he is.

City College of San Francisco plays some of the best JUCO ball in the country. The competition Lee faced there was dramatically superior to Texas 4A. Any argument to the contrary is misguided.

I didnt know, I know the Jayhawk league is good, and NU has had a few from San Fran before so it must be okay, but I just brought up the juco point as a general statement

 

[HUSKER 37]

Personally I don't care who the quarterback is. I'll let Pelini and Watson figure out who the man is. They get to see each quarterback practice and I would hope they can tell which one is the best for the team.

I will however say this before someone else throws it out there. Callahan (and maybe Watson, I don't know)obviously wasn't able to figure out that Joe G. was better than Sam K.. Let 's hope Pelini is smarter.

Do you really think Joe was better than Sam?

More mobile, I'll give you.

But there were passes Sam made that Joe couldn't even touch.

Sam was really handcuffed under Cally's system, but he and his dad probably felt it was his best chance to get to the NFL.

:laughpound Oh man, Oh man, I thought you where joking, when I realized you where serious, I almost blew cornflakes out my nose!!! :laughpound

I don't remembeer Keller ever throwing for 400+ and 7TDs. And as skilled as Keller may have been, he couldn't get the ball downfield, and never had half the heart Joe Ganz had. So YES I really think Ganz was a better QB, and I think a lot of Husker fans are to quick to dismiss his accomplishments.

If the team struggles at QB in the near future, (knock on wood) then maybe folks will relize that we where blessed to have a player like Ganz. Who IMO may be the best QB NU has had in a decade. And YES that includes Heisman trophy winner Eric Crouch!

Agreed. 100%.

I think that Joe was better than Sam! When you say there were passes that Sam made that Joe couldn't even touch....which throws? ...and while were on this there were passes that Joe made that Sam couldn't even touch...LIKE THROWS ON THE RUN!! :sarcasm

I know it has been mentioned in other threads, and I will agree, that Sam had the better frame for a quarterback, and even a hotter girl, but Joe had more heart, and more respect.

Ahhhh..

Grasshopper(s)

Looking back..I forgot how frustrating it was watching Sam run Cally's "dink and dunk" where even an old linebacker like me could complete dozens of 6-8 yard passes..

And to think..I was So excited when I heard we were getting him..I thought if Cally had any ability to change from the evil WCO at all...A QB with this guy's skeels would be the key.

I guess I was basing my opinion on seeing Sammy take apart Bo Pelini's LSU defense in 2005

...had the season's 12th-best single-game performance in the nation against No. 5 LSU, establishing career-bests by completing 35-of-56 passes (62.5 pct.) for 461 yards and four touchdowns

..He seemed to throw the best fade route I'd ever seen in person and the way he could march ASU downfield by threading 25 to 35 yard passes where only his receiver could get it. usually, off his back foot.
Or the 347 yds against then #1 USC when ASU had a two TD lead at halftime.

I don't question Joe's heart, but I also didn't see it lacking in Sam.

We did appear to move the ball more consistantly after Joe took over for Sam, but you also have to take the opposition into consideration towards the end of the season and also how our Offensive philosophy changed to take better advantage of Joe's mobility.

It's sorta "Apples and Oranges" when you compare QB's, but depending on what the rest of your personnel's strengths are...I'd still have to go with Keller..I just prefer "gunslingers".

But then..If I could clone any Nebraska QB from the past..I'd still pick Gill over Frazier.

Oh yeah..Careful with those Cornflakes!

I almost blew a tearduct one time when I had a stuffy nose and LOL'd while eatin them.

 

[The Maudfather]

Ahhhh..

Grasshopper(s)

Looking back..I forgot how frustrating it was watching Sam run Cally's "dink and dunk" where even an old linebacker like me could complete dozens of 6-8 yard passes..

And to think..I was So excited when I heard we were getting him..I thought if Cally had any ability to change from the evil WCO at all...A QB with this guy's skeels would be the key.

If I am not mistaking...Cally was still the coach for the first 3 games that Ganz started! Now, I am guessing you have been hanging around some Colorado fans, and got a contact high while you were typing, because Ganz>Keller.

Sam Keller 2007, through 9 games

PASSING GP-GS Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G

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Keller, Sam 9-9 133.74 205-325-10 63.1 2422 14 73 269.1

Joe Ganz 2008, through 13 games

PASSING GP-GS Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G

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Ganz, Joe 13-13 153.62 285-420-11 67.9 3568 25 69 274.5

And lets not forget that Joey faced much better competition this year than Keller did in 2007. See Oklahoma, Virginia Tech, and Clemson.

I would say the only part of being a quarterback that Keller did better than Ganz was pulling chicks.

 

[HUSKER 37]

Ahhhh..

Grasshopper(s)

Looking back..I forgot how frustrating it was watching Sam run Cally's "dink and dunk" where even an old linebacker like me could complete dozens of 6-8 yard passes..

And to think..I was So excited when I heard we were getting him..I thought if Cally had any ability to change from the evil WCO at all...A QB with this guy's skeels would be the key.

If I am not mistaking...Cally was still the coach for the first 3 games that Ganz started!

Against Powerhouse Defenses of KSU, KS, and Colorado :laughpound

Now, I am guessing you have been hanging around some Colorado fans, and got a contact high while you were typing, because Ganz>Keller.

Sam Keller 2007, through 9 games

PASSING GP-GS Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G

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Keller, Sam 9-9 133.74 205-325-10 63.1 2422 14 73 269.1

Joe Ganz 2008, through 13 games

PASSING GP-GS Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G

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Ganz, Joe 13-13 153.62 285-420-11 67.9 3568 25 69 274.5

And lets not forget that Joey faced much better competition this year than Keller did in 2007. See Oklahoma, Virginia Tech, and Clemson.

I would say the only part of being a quarterback that Keller did better than Ganz was pulling chicks.

What about throwin' paper cups? :dumdum

Step away from the Ralphie fumes!

Now you're tellin' me Oklahoma, VT, and Clemson are "Much better" than 2007 Texas, USC(west), and Wake Flourist? :laughpound .

Joey's numbers look slightly better than Sammy's (worst QB ratings since his Sophmore year when he played in only 6 games ...behind the Raders' Andrew Walter..

Keller earned his first career start as a Soph. in the Sun Bowl against Purdue, leading a fourth-quarter comeback victory with 370 yards and three touchdowns. He earned the Sun Bowl Most Valuable Player Award.)

I appreciate all Joey did for us, but what.. if any..I get most from his stats....Is that Watson was slightly more better than Callihan at calling plays...But neither impressed me as much as (Dirkless) Koetter as an OC/Playcaller.

Joey did improve much more than any Nebraska QB that I can recall (just before Sammy was named starter)...And maybe we would have been better off long term if Joey had started all season as a Jr...

But Keller would still get my nod if I felt I had to win "this Year or else".

What was the topic again?

At any rate...I really really hope whoever the Backup is next season..Gets some quality playing time.

As much as our QB's have been pounded, we've been cruising by on our looks ..er..luck for way too long.