Non-Call on Westerkamp

[Mavric]

Face guard is supposed to be automatic in CFB. That is a face guard and impeding progress towards the ball. Its the same call as if the DB slowed down in front of the receiver on a go route.

It was PI. They didn't call it. Oh well.

Face guarding hasn't been a rule for probably 15 years.

 

[4everhusker]

That is the definition of pass interference. Unless incidental contact was made, which I think Watt prevented his path to making the catch and it should of been called.

I might have a Nebraska bias on the call but it should have been called. If its fourth down I could see a no call but he had no chance to make a play on the ball cause a defender was impeding his progress to make the catch.

That is the definition of pass interference. Unless incidental contact was made, which I think Watt prevented his path to making the catch and it should of been called.

I might have a Nebraska bias on the call but it should have been called. If its fourth down I could see a no call but he had no chance to make a play on the ball cause a defender was impeding his progress to make the catch.

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[fb30]

Refs missed a lot of calls. Not much we can do about it.

 

[In the Deed the Glory]

Face guard is supposed to be automatic in CFB. That is a face guard and impeding progress towards the ball. Its the same call as if the DB slowed down in front of the receiver on a go route.

It was PI. They didn't call it. Oh well.

Face guarding hasn't been a rule for probably 15 years.

And yet it is called almost every time it happens. It is always said, "He didn't look back for the ball, that is automatic"

 

[Mavric]

Face guard is supposed to be automatic in CFB. That is a face guard and impeding progress towards the ball. Its the same call as if the DB slowed down in front of the receiver on a go route.

It was PI. They didn't call it. Oh well.

Face guarding hasn't been a rule for probably 15 years.

And yet it is called almost every time it happens.

No, it's not. Commentators still talk about it but that's not what gets called.

 

[In the Deed the Glory]

Face guard is supposed to be automatic in CFB. That is a face guard and impeding progress towards the ball. Its the same call as if the DB slowed down in front of the receiver on a go route.

It was PI. They didn't call it. Oh well.

Face guarding hasn't been a rule for probably 15 years.

And yet it is called almost every time it happens.

No, it's not. Commentators still talk about it but that's not what gets called.

Ok. Now we know more than the people who get paid to know the rules, Mav. Come on man.

 

[3rd and long]

It's when the defender makes contact without looking back for the ball that it's automatic.

I can see Mavric's point. It looks like both of them pull up a bit. Westercamp probably needed to really run into Watt, make sure there was ample contact for the official to see.

 

[Mavric]

Face guard is supposed to be automatic in CFB. That is a face guard and impeding progress towards the ball. Its the same call as if the DB slowed down in front of the receiver on a go route.

It was PI. They didn't call it. Oh well.

Face guarding hasn't been a rule for probably 15 years.

And yet it is called almost every time it happens.

No, it's not. Commentators still talk about it but that's not what gets called.

Ok. Now we know more than the people who get paid to know the rules, Mav. Come on man.

They don't get paid to know the rules. They get paid to talk about football.

All you need to look at is one Ed Cunningham to know that knowledge of the rules is not a requirement for being on TV/

 

[Mavric]

It's when the defender makes contact without looking back for the ball that it's automatic.

I can see Mavric's point. It looks like both of them pull up a bit. Westercamp probably needed to really run into Watt, make sure there was ample contact for the official to see.

No it is not automatic.

That's the biggest problem. Not trying to take a shot at just you but many people like to think they know the rules but they really don't. They just think they know them.

 

[In the Deed the Glory]

Face guard is supposed to be automatic in CFB. That is a face guard and impeding progress towards the ball. Its the same call as if the DB slowed down in front of the receiver on a go route.

It was PI. They didn't call it. Oh well.

Face guarding hasn't been a rule for probably 15 years.

And yet it is called almost every time it happens.

No, it's not. Commentators still talk about it but that's not what gets called.

Ok. Now we know more than the people who get paid to know the rules, Mav. Come on man.

They don't get paid to know the rules. They get paid to talk about football.

All you need to look at is one Ed Cunningham to know that knowledge of the rules is not a requirement for being on TV/

Alright, I will give you Ed Cunningham. He is a dumbass.

My point is if it really isn't rule it sure seems to get called a lot. Also, you cannot impede progress toward a catchable pass, that is literally in the rulebook.

 

[4everhusker]

I'm being totally legit here: I'm not sure the non-call was all that bad. I kind of thought that during the game but wanted to watch it a bit more.

I'd really like to see another angle on this. But it looks to me like Westy slows up and I'm not sure if Watt initiated any contact.

Honestly looks like a bit of.a flop by West to me. And I'm a huge Westy fan. But I just don't see much there.

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[3rd and long]

It's when the defender makes contact without looking back for the ball that it's automatic.

I can see Mavric's point. It looks like both of them pull up a bit. Westercamp probably needed to really run into Watt, make sure there was ample contact for the official to see.

No it is not automatic.

That's the biggest problem. Not trying to take a shot at just you but many people like to think they know the rules but they really don't. They just think they know them.

When isn't it a penalty when the defender makes contact with the receiver and doesn't look for the ball? Outside of instances where the pass is deemed uncatchable.

 

[Mavric]

Face guard is supposed to be automatic in CFB. That is a face guard and impeding progress towards the ball. Its the same call as if the DB slowed down in front of the receiver on a go route.

It was PI. They didn't call it. Oh well.

Face guarding hasn't been a rule for probably 15 years.

And yet it is called almost every time it happens.

No, it's not. Commentators still talk about it but that's not what gets called.

Ok. Now we know more than the people who get paid to know the rules, Mav. Come on man.

They don't get paid to know the rules. They get paid to talk about football.

All you need to look at is one Ed Cunningham to know that knowledge of the rules is not a requirement for being on TV/

Alright, I will give you Ed Cunningham. He is a dumbass.

My point is if it really isn't rule it sure seems to get called a lot. Also, you cannot impede progress toward a catchable pass, that is literally in the rulebook.

No, that's really not in the rule book either.

 

[In the Deed the Glory]

Face guard is supposed to be automatic in CFB. That is a face guard and impeding progress towards the ball. Its the same call as if the DB slowed down in front of the receiver on a go route.

It was PI. They didn't call it. Oh well.

Face guarding hasn't been a rule for probably 15 years.

And yet it is called almost every time it happens.

No, it's not. Commentators still talk about it but that's not what gets called.

Ok. Now we know more than the people who get paid to know the rules, Mav. Come on man.

They don't get paid to know the rules. They get paid to talk about football.

All you need to look at is one Ed Cunningham to know that knowledge of the rules is not a requirement for being on TV/

Alright, I will give you Ed Cunningham. He is a dumbass.

My point is if it really isn't rule it sure seems to get called a lot. Also, you cannot impede progress toward a catchable pass, that is literally in the rulebook.

No, that's really not in the rule book either.

Sigh...

pass interference (PI) is a foul that occurs when a player interferes with an eligible receiver's ability to make a fair attempt to catch a forward pass. Pass interference may include tripping, pushing, pulling, or cutting in front of the receiver, covering the receiver's face, or pulling on the receiver's hands or arms.

and directly from the rule book..

Defensive pass interference is contact beyond the neutral zone by a

Team B player whose intent to impede an eligible opponent is obvious

and it could prevent the opponent the opportunity of receiving a

catchable forward pass.

 

[Mavric]

Here is the actual rule:

Illegal Contact and Pass Interference


ARTICLE 8.
a. During a down in which a legal forward pass crosses the neutral zone, illegal contact by Team A and Team B players is prohibited from the time the ball is snapped until it is touched by any player or an official (A.R. 7-3-8-II).
b. Offensive pass interference by a Team A player beyond the neutral zone during a legal forward pass play in which a forward pass crosses the neutral zone is contact that interferes with a Team B eligible player. It is the responsibility of the offensive player to avoid the opponents. It is not offensive pass interference (A.R. 7-3-8-IV, V, X, XV and XVI):
1. When, after the snap, a Team A ineligible player immediately charges and contacts an opponent at a point not more than one yard beyond the neutral zone and maintains the contact for no more than three yards beyond the neutral zone. (A.R. 7-3-10-II)
2. When two or more eligible players are making a simultaneous and bona fide attempt to reach, catch or bat the pass. Eligible players of either team have equal rights to the ball (A.R. 7-3-8-IX).
3. When the pass is in flight and two or more eligible players are in the area where they might receive or intercept the pass and an offensive player in that area impedes an opponent, and the pass is not catchable.
PENALTY—15 yards from the previous spot [s33].

c. Defensive pass interference is contact beyond the neutral zone by a Team B player whose intent to impede an eligible opponent is obvious and it could prevent the opponent the opportunity of receiving a catchable forward pass. When in question, a legal forward pass is catchable. Defensive pass interference occurs only after a legal forward pass is thrown (A. R. 7-3-8-VII, VIII, XI and XII). It is not defensive pass interference (A.R. 7-3-8-III and 7-3-9-III):
1. When, after the snap, opposing players immediately charge and establish contact with opponents at a point that is within one yard beyond the neutral zone.
2. When two or more eligible players are making a simultaneous and bona fide attempt to reach, catch or bat the pass. Eligible players of either team have equal rights to the ball (A.R. 7-3-8-IX). FR-78 Rule 7 / Snapping and Passing the Ball
3. When a Team B player legally contacts an opponent before the pass is thrown (A.R. 7-3-8-III and X).
4. When a Team A potential kicker, from scrimmage kick formation, simulates a scrimmage kick by throwing the ball high and deep, and contact by a Team B player occurs.

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