Obligatory "Is Iowa a Rival" Thread

Is Iowa a Rivalry for Nebraska?

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Hayseed said:
Wisconsin is our Texas.
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No, I would suggest Ohio State is our Texass. Wisky is more our Mizzery, but with substantially more success (than Mizzery) but still looking up to us for various reasons. 

Additionally, I would submit that Iowa is more our Colorado, but with fewer flirtations with competence than the Buffaloes have ever experienced and s******r driving skills among the Iowa collective fanbase. Also, that:

  • MSU is our Kansas State (or aTm)
  • Michigan is our Texas Tech
  • Illinois is our Baylor
  • Purdue is our Iowa State
  • Northwestern is our Oklahoma State
  • Penn State is our Oklahoma.

ICHawk24 said:
One requirement of today's CFB rivalries is at least one fanbase has to deny it is a rivalry.
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No, one requirement is that the rivalry requires a contrived trophy created by the B1G headquarters paired with a corporate sponsorship.

That's why it's okay to say Minny and the $5 Bits of Broken Chair isn't a rivalry--it just means it is, because we exist in Bizarro world. 

And reading that has now made my head hurt from the paradox. 

 
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Fru said:
Surely you can't be serious. 
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Obligatory.

 
knapplc said:
Nebraska is to Michigan State what Texas was to Nebraska.
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Yes. Minus the long stretch where Texas was a much more regularly dominant team than MSU has been.

We’ve beaten MSU when they’re undefeated and we were 4-7 or whatever it was. We beat MSU when we’re supposed to. We beat MSU in the last minutes (or seconds) of the game — 3 times now. We beat them 24-3 when they were ranked #9 and we were #13. We even almost came back in a game we shouldn’t have been in 3 years ago. I would hate us if I was an MSU fan. 

There wasn’t a single time before or during the season I thought we might lose to MSU this season until they went up 6-0 in the 4th quarter on Saturday and even then I hadn’t given up. I was just getting a little nervous. We have their # and I’ll always assume we’ll beat them.

 
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Moiraine said:
We’ve beaten MSU when they’re undefeated and we were 4-7 or whatever it was. We beat MSU when we’re supposed to. We beat MSU in the last minutes (or seconds) of the game — 3 times now. We even almost came back in a game we shouldn’t have been in. I would hate us if I was an MSU fan. 
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Our strategy, which is clearly working, is for MSU to not hate us.






 
Moiraine said:
There wasn’t a single time before or during the season I thought we might lose to MSU this season until they went up 6-0 in the 4th quarter on Saturday and even then I hadn’t given up. I was just getting a little nervous.  
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I never doubted.


 
knapplc said:
I never doubted.
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It reminded me of that game too.

Also, when we stripped the ball and they blew the whistle for forward progress, I felt like something was going to happen on the next play. It reminded me of the almost safety against Florida and then the for real safety. 

 
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ESPN posted a top 8 rivalry games ranking for this week and Nebraska Iowa is not listed. We got beat out by Oklahoma vs. West Virginia (although that isn’t a rivalry either, It’s just important this year).

 
If it's a rivalry now, it's because we're not where we belong / have traditionally been.  Oklahoma was our rival before as we had comparable achievements and kept finishing 1 and 2 in our conference...which allowed us to contend for an even greater prize fairly regularly.  We had big stakes on the line with an equal and that made it more of a rivalry.  I'd call Iowa an enemy at best (like Colorado used to be only without so much history, in terms of winning the conference).

Let's take Notre Dame as an example.  USC is their rival but Michigan is their enemy.

 
beorach said:
If it's a rivalry now, it's because we're not where we belong / have traditionally been.  Oklahoma was our rival before as we had comparable achievements and kept finishing 1 and 2 in our conference...which allowed us to contend for an even greater prize fairly regularly.  We had big stakes on the line with an equal and that made it more of a rivalry.  I'd call Iowa an enemy at best (like Colorado used to be only without so much history, in terms of winning the conference).

Let's take Notre Dame as an example.  USC is their rival but Michigan is their enemy.
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Do you consider Michigan and Michigan State rivals? Oklahoma and Oklahoma State? Clemson and South Carolina? 

 
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