Racism - It's a real thing.
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Lorewarn
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Every Liberal’s favorite comedian
His Brady roast bits were good, and a perfect example of how the wrong context, rather than the jokes themselves, can make jokes seem horrendous, although those are aided in large part by making fun of huge celebrities imo
Imagine some mildly spicy joke you made recently being read back to you by a lawyer in a courtroom and asking, "So you think this is funny?" Like, well, not when you read it like that
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Guy Chamberlin
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I like giving this guy the last word on the subject:
What if a Joke Tips the Election?
Would it be dumber than anything else that's happened?
Jeff Maurer
Oct 30
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Photo from The Washington Post via Getty.
It looks like Tony Hinchcliffe’s Puerto Rico joke might actually matter. Harris is running ads about it, and the Trump campaign took the unusual (for them) step of admitting that something went wrong. Republican officials in Puerto Rico and elsewhere are fleeing from the joke like it’s a turd in a swimming pool. This is remarkable to me partly because I thought I’d seen (and experienced) every type of bombing, but in all my years, I’ve never seen a comic bomb in a way that was history altering.
It seems strange to me that this might matter. I mean…this? After all that Trump’s said and done? Will this joke really be the thing that causes some folks to think “this Trump fellow might lack character” — to quote another comic: “Who are these people?” To anyone who is just now realizing that Trump might be kind of racist, here’s another mind-blower for you: Woody Allen is Jewish. And Mick Jagger likes to bone. And Tim Burton is one spooky little f#&%er. I’m actually glad to learn that people this naive exist, because it validates the plots of so many lowbrow ‘90s comedies; I remember watching White Chicks and Weekend At Bernie’s and thinking “how could anyone be fooled by this?” But if people can observe Trump for nine years just now realize that he’s racist, then people might walk among us who would be tricked by putting sunglasses on a dead guy.
This episode just heightens my puzzlement with undecided voters. Over the years, I’ve gone from thinking that I don’t fully understand them to thinking that I barely understand them to thinking that I must be in The Matrix, and they’re experiencing an entirely different reality from me. It’s not that we see the world differently — it’s that I lack any framework to understand how they see the world. For example: I thought Trump had some sort of Say Whatever Weird s#!t You Want card, and parsing his insanity — such as when he suggested that The Purge might be a good idea — meant that you are the idiot. But this time, someone who is not even Trump told a joke, and it might cause Trump big problems. If I may update Socrates’ “the only thing I know is that I know nothing” aphorism for a modern age: I keep discovering that I’m too big of a retard to even know what a retard I am.¹
Part of me thinks this is unfair. I’m on record saying that I think the joke was “terrible” — terrible as in “not funny” and also as in “a dickish thing to say” — but it was a joke. Hinchcliffe is a roast comic, and my main criticism is that roast jokes only work when it’s clear that you don’t mean what you’re saying. I’m also not comfortable with jokes being taken literally; if that gets normalized, I won’t just get cancelled — I’ll be buried neck-deep in the woods so that ants can eat my face. And sure, the Trump campaign blew it by approving the joke, but that might not make a list of the top 100 most outrageous things that they’ve done. My brain keeps circling back to: “This? This is the thing that finally does it?” It seems so arbitrary.
But if we start arguing that things should be fair, then Trump’s political career should have ended long ago. It’s not fair that after a decade of Trump being in politics, people still exist who haven’t realized that his whole schtick is divisive nativism. It’s not fair that Republicans didn’t impeach Trump after January 6 because they said the courts could handle it, and then Trump used the absence of an impeachment to question the court’s legitimacy. It’s not fair that Trump lies so much and proposes so many ridiculous policies that we simply can’t keep track of it all. It’s not fair that the two most serious cases against Trump haven’t been tried because the American legal system moves slower than Jordan Peterson’s bowels.² Trump is the luckiest motherf#&%er to ever draw breath, and if he ends up getting zapped by a s#!tty joke from Edgelord McPodcast, that will definitely be funny, but it won’t be unfair.
Maybe none of this will matter. There’s still a week until the election, which is enough time for 10-12 insane things to happen and make everyone forget about this. I’d honestly find it funny if private citizen James Comey held a press conference and announced that he’s opening an investigation into Harris’ email habits — that would be so f#&%ed up that I’d respect it. It’s been clear for a while now that random nonsense will decide this election; if this joke ends up being the random nonsense that tips the scales, I don’t think Trump can complain.
What if a Joke Tips the Election?
Would it be dumber than anything else that's happened?
Jeff Maurer
Oct 30
∙
Paid
READ IN APP
Photo from The Washington Post via Getty.
It looks like Tony Hinchcliffe’s Puerto Rico joke might actually matter. Harris is running ads about it, and the Trump campaign took the unusual (for them) step of admitting that something went wrong. Republican officials in Puerto Rico and elsewhere are fleeing from the joke like it’s a turd in a swimming pool. This is remarkable to me partly because I thought I’d seen (and experienced) every type of bombing, but in all my years, I’ve never seen a comic bomb in a way that was history altering.
It seems strange to me that this might matter. I mean…this? After all that Trump’s said and done? Will this joke really be the thing that causes some folks to think “this Trump fellow might lack character” — to quote another comic: “Who are these people?” To anyone who is just now realizing that Trump might be kind of racist, here’s another mind-blower for you: Woody Allen is Jewish. And Mick Jagger likes to bone. And Tim Burton is one spooky little f#&%er. I’m actually glad to learn that people this naive exist, because it validates the plots of so many lowbrow ‘90s comedies; I remember watching White Chicks and Weekend At Bernie’s and thinking “how could anyone be fooled by this?” But if people can observe Trump for nine years just now realize that he’s racist, then people might walk among us who would be tricked by putting sunglasses on a dead guy.
This episode just heightens my puzzlement with undecided voters. Over the years, I’ve gone from thinking that I don’t fully understand them to thinking that I barely understand them to thinking that I must be in The Matrix, and they’re experiencing an entirely different reality from me. It’s not that we see the world differently — it’s that I lack any framework to understand how they see the world. For example: I thought Trump had some sort of Say Whatever Weird s#!t You Want card, and parsing his insanity — such as when he suggested that The Purge might be a good idea — meant that you are the idiot. But this time, someone who is not even Trump told a joke, and it might cause Trump big problems. If I may update Socrates’ “the only thing I know is that I know nothing” aphorism for a modern age: I keep discovering that I’m too big of a retard to even know what a retard I am.¹
Part of me thinks this is unfair. I’m on record saying that I think the joke was “terrible” — terrible as in “not funny” and also as in “a dickish thing to say” — but it was a joke. Hinchcliffe is a roast comic, and my main criticism is that roast jokes only work when it’s clear that you don’t mean what you’re saying. I’m also not comfortable with jokes being taken literally; if that gets normalized, I won’t just get cancelled — I’ll be buried neck-deep in the woods so that ants can eat my face. And sure, the Trump campaign blew it by approving the joke, but that might not make a list of the top 100 most outrageous things that they’ve done. My brain keeps circling back to: “This? This is the thing that finally does it?” It seems so arbitrary.
But if we start arguing that things should be fair, then Trump’s political career should have ended long ago. It’s not fair that after a decade of Trump being in politics, people still exist who haven’t realized that his whole schtick is divisive nativism. It’s not fair that Republicans didn’t impeach Trump after January 6 because they said the courts could handle it, and then Trump used the absence of an impeachment to question the court’s legitimacy. It’s not fair that Trump lies so much and proposes so many ridiculous policies that we simply can’t keep track of it all. It’s not fair that the two most serious cases against Trump haven’t been tried because the American legal system moves slower than Jordan Peterson’s bowels.² Trump is the luckiest motherf#&%er to ever draw breath, and if he ends up getting zapped by a s#!tty joke from Edgelord McPodcast, that will definitely be funny, but it won’t be unfair.
Maybe none of this will matter. There’s still a week until the election, which is enough time for 10-12 insane things to happen and make everyone forget about this. I’d honestly find it funny if private citizen James Comey held a press conference and announced that he’s opening an investigation into Harris’ email habits — that would be so f#&%ed up that I’d respect it. It’s been clear for a while now that random nonsense will decide this election; if this joke ends up being the random nonsense that tips the scales, I don’t think Trump can complain.
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commando
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funhusker
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This would imply she gets paid for her acts. I’m guessing she’s just a good old fashioned sl-t…
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Danny Bateman
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It’s amazing how those who blatant racism is trained on always manage to respond so gracefully under fire and the idiots directing the racism never manage to even acknowledge how obviously they f#&%ed up.
A Venn diagram of racists and idiots basically comprises of one circle.
Nebfanatic
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Hey now Lloyd Christmas is alot of things, idiot being among them. But he is not a racist!