RIP Jimmy Carter

Grave dancing 🙄.  I thought this was a message board to discuss thoughts and opinions, but I guess I will refresh my browser and make sure I’m still on HB.  
 

I'm sure it was an accident on your end, but you did seem to “overlook” the 2 posts saying how he was a good person to a lot of people and did great humanitarian work.   Just an oversight I’m sure since you were so excited to try and get a grave dancing take in before years end. 
Not to worry, you are indeed still on HB. Please remember to tag me when you post your posthumous takes on the life of Donald J. Trump. I’m looking forward to learning something.

BTW, I was not excited at all. Actually quite sorry it even needed to be said.

 
We've reached the point where a person that was instrumental in one of the most important peace deals in the modern history of the Middle East is now a "Hamas bro". Partisanship makes people say comical silly things.
Two things can be true at the same time.  Especially considering Hamas wasn’t even a thing in 1978👍.  I agree with your partisanship statement.  It’s accurate, just not in the way you wished it to be today.  

On the flip side of actively siding against American policy.   A policy he had as President btw….

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2002/05/jimmy-carter.html

During the buildup to the Gulf War in 1990 and 1991, Carter unsuccessfully worked to undermine the foreign policy of America’s democratically elected president, George Bush. Carter behaved as the Imperial Ex-President, conducting a guerrilla foreign policy operation that competed with the actual president’s. What’s disturbing about this behavior is not that Carter opposed war with Iraq.Many Democrats opposed going to war, and they worked within the American system to try to prevent a war that many predicted would be bloody (which it was, for Iraq). But Carter went further than merely lobbying Congress to oppose military action or speaking out in an effort to tilt popular opinion against the coming war. He used his status as a former president to engage in foreign policy, a deliberate effort to subvert the democratic process.
 

In November 1990, two months after Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait, Carter wrote a letter to the heads of state of the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council. He urged the countries to drop their support for Bush’s proposed military solution. Instead, as Douglas Brinkley outlines in The Unfinished Presidency, his glowing but not uncritical assessment of Carter’s post-presidential years, Carter asked the countries to give “unequivocal support to an Arab League effort” for peace. (As Brinkley notes, Carter’s anti-war position conflicted with the Carter Doctrine he had outlined as president: Any “attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such force will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.”) Right up to Bush’s Jan. 15 deadline for war, Carter continued his shadow foreign policy campaign. On Jan. 10, he wrote the leaders of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Syria and asked them to oppose the impending military action. “I am distressed by the inability of either the international community or the Arab world to find a diplomatic solution to the Gulf crisis,” he wrote. “I urge you to call publicly for a delay in the use of force while Arab leaders seek a peaceful solution to the crisis. You may have to forego approval from the White House, but you will find the French, Soviets, and others fully supportive. Also, most Americans will welcome such a move.” Former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft later accused Carter of violating the Logan Act, the law that prohibits American citizens from conducting unofficial foreign policy.

During the Clinton administration, Carter had similar difficulties coming to grips with the fact that he was not president. In 1994, President Clinton dispatched Carter to defuse an impending war with North Korea over that country’s nuclear program. Again, Carter confused the foreign policy of the U.S. government with his own personal inclinations and conducted some free-lance diplomacy, this time on CNN. After meeting with Kim Il Sung, Carter went live on CNN International without telling the administration. His motive: Undermine the Clinton administration’s efforts to impose U.N. sanctions on North Korea. Carter believed sanctions threatened the agreement he had worked out. By speaking directly to the world about the prospects for peace, he knowingly encouraged countries like Russia and China, which were resisting a sanctions regime. According to Brinkley, a Clinton Cabinet member referred to Carter as a “treasonous prick” for his behavior. 

No matter: Carter reprised his direct-to-CNN antics during his trip to Haiti later that year. During his mission as envoy there, he also defied orders from Secretary of State Warren Christopher. Carter had a tendency to treat Christopher as his deputy secretary of state, which Christopher had been during the Carter administration, and not as his boss, which he was during the Clinton-sponsored Haiti mission.


 


Carter has done admirable work since he left office, particularly in Africa, where he has helped nearly to eradicate some deadly diseases. And when he’s brokering a cease-fire during a civil war in Ethiopia, or promoting new agricultural techniques in sub-Saharan Africa, he’s actively making the world a better place. But a benevolent ex-president is still an ex-president, and it would be nice if Carter remembered that more often.

 
He was a great man!  I am kind of thinking we can leave it at that.  You would be hard pressed to find many who accomplished some of the great things he did outside of the office.  And he taught Sunday School.

 
Two things can be true at the same time.  Especially considering Hamas wasn’t even a thing in 1978👍.  I agree with your partisanship statement.  It’s accurate, just not in the way you wished it to be today.  
That's a lot of words to not actually show Carter supporting Hamas. Partisanship indeed.

 
jimmy pranked donald pretty hard with the timing of his death.   now flags will be flying at half mast when trump is sworn in.    give him an A for that troll of the donald

 
As someone that was in charge the flag at a school I taught at...this kind of stuff drove me nuts.

We would get calls to the school "You know, your flag is up and it should not be all the way up today because..."

Yeah, sorry I messed that up today when I was also stoping 3 kids from fighting, helping a student that was crying, trying to find some snacks for a kid that didn't have food at home and making sure my lesson plans were turned in so that my crazy former boss did not set up a meeting with me.

 
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