Should we fire Satterfield??
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admo
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:yeah
And he has been holding onto the ball too long. Our O-Line is not built to provide 5 seconds of protection while DR looks into the middle of the field. No offense to LT Gottula, LG JEJ, and the RBs that struggle to help in pass pro.
I also wonder about the routes. Without a sky box view, it is hard to tell if they are slow developing from the WRs, or if the are longer routes and slow crossing routes designed in the playbook. :dunno
Mavric
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Again, I don't know as much about the game yesterday.
There are often different receivers at different levels. From previous games, it sure seems to me like Raiola is convinced he needs to wait for the longer routes instead of taking the open guys quick. So, yes, there are slow-developing routes. But I don't think those are the only routes available.
lo country
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I agree. It's like he waits to get what "he wants" vs "taking what is there". A 40 yard dime for 6 looks awesome. But 5-6 passes for 8-10 yards and a TD is equally awesome. And probably more achievable with our current OL.
I have complained a lot about calling plays for "the players you have, not for the players you want". Same with DR. Take what you have.....
admo
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Thanks, and agree with DR holding it too long. I'm just curious if it is because our receivers are slower and struggle to get by the physical DBs/Coverage to get to the spot (receivers not named Barney or Lloyd).
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Mavric
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I'm not trying to be a Satterfield apologist. But people always want to blame the coaches way more than they want to blame the players. So I don't think it's as simple as people want to make it seem.
I'm not sure who is in charge of the running back rotation. I would guess it's not Satterfield, though one would think either he or Rhule could put their foot down if they wanted to. But we continue to give the most opportunities to our least-effective RB. So that's not helpful to the offense overall.
I'm not sure who's in charge of our wide receiver rotation. Same comments on Satt and Rhule as above. But we continue to give the most snaps to guys who many unbiased observers have noted are not getting open and are struggling to block. Also not helpful to the offense overall.
So if you're struggling to run and don't have any deep passing game, I'm not sure there are very many OCs anywhere who can put together a competent offense. Sean Payton used to be considered an offensive wizard but the Broncos have no deep passing game, a struggling running game and - oddly enough - have struggled on offense since Payton got there (and previous to that). (Not trying to compare Satt to Patyon, just happens that the two teams I follow most closely are both struggling on offense.)
Yesterday our first drive started at our one yard line. I'm guessing at that point the script gets thrown out and everything you wanted to start with is all screwed up. But we did manage to get the ball off our goal line with one first down. On second down, Neyor screwed up and was trying to block on a pass play where he was the primary option we were throwing from our own end zone and there were only other option out there. If your top receivers don't know the plays, it's tough to run an offense. After the first down, we had an absolutely perfect play call - we had a screen to the side where Indiana had a corner blitz coming. Should have been a really big play. But Nayor doesn't even touch the guy he's supposed to block and the play goes for nothing. Then we try to throw a short, high-percentage pass. But because we have no deep threat the CB jumps the route and we're lucky it wasn't picked. On third down, EJ is completely oblivious to two blitzing linebackers, blocking no one even though they are brining six and Raiola has to throw it away. Not sure how the OC is supposed to prevent that with play-calling.
More to come....
I'm not sure who is in charge of the running back rotation. I would guess it's not Satterfield, though one would think either he or Rhule could put their foot down if they wanted to. But we continue to give the most opportunities to our least-effective RB. So that's not helpful to the offense overall.
I'm not sure who's in charge of our wide receiver rotation. Same comments on Satt and Rhule as above. But we continue to give the most snaps to guys who many unbiased observers have noted are not getting open and are struggling to block. Also not helpful to the offense overall.
So if you're struggling to run and don't have any deep passing game, I'm not sure there are very many OCs anywhere who can put together a competent offense. Sean Payton used to be considered an offensive wizard but the Broncos have no deep passing game, a struggling running game and - oddly enough - have struggled on offense since Payton got there (and previous to that). (Not trying to compare Satt to Patyon, just happens that the two teams I follow most closely are both struggling on offense.)
Yesterday our first drive started at our one yard line. I'm guessing at that point the script gets thrown out and everything you wanted to start with is all screwed up. But we did manage to get the ball off our goal line with one first down. On second down, Neyor screwed up and was trying to block on a pass play where he was the primary option we were throwing from our own end zone and there were only other option out there. If your top receivers don't know the plays, it's tough to run an offense. After the first down, we had an absolutely perfect play call - we had a screen to the side where Indiana had a corner blitz coming. Should have been a really big play. But Nayor doesn't even touch the guy he's supposed to block and the play goes for nothing. Then we try to throw a short, high-percentage pass. But because we have no deep threat the CB jumps the route and we're lucky it wasn't picked. On third down, EJ is completely oblivious to two blitzing linebackers, blocking no one even though they are brining six and Raiola has to throw it away. Not sure how the OC is supposed to prevent that with play-calling.
More to come....
gossamorharpy
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Our offense has been pathetic for a season and a half now and that’s with 2 completely different sets of players, outside of our o line. But yeah, keep being an apologist for the grown man making over a mil a year and just blame 18-22 year olds instead
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Mavric
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Second possession, starting at our own 35
Great call on first down. We saw the CB jump the short route on the previous possession so we run a double-move at him. Could have been a TD but the DB grabs on when he knows he's beaten. DPI.
First down, Raiola has a lot of time. He waits for the deep routes to develop, even though he could have dumped it short to an uncovered Fidone. He does check down to Fidone eventually - after he is pressured and almost sacked - but by then IU had a chance to react and Fidone is tackled as soon as he catches it.
We run four short routes on second down that are all covered. Raiola hits Dowdell on the check-down and Dowdell makes a nice move to get four yards. We run it on third-and-one and Dowdell gets a nice gain; could have been more if Neyor gets any sort of block on the CB that makes the tackle.
On first down we run a counter, pulling the G and TE. But Boerkircher blocks no one and the guy he should have blocked makes the tackle for no gain. On second down, we run a couple short routes to the right but not much is open. Raiola eventually spins out of pressure and resets but bounces it into Neyor. On third down, Raiola does a great job of hitting Lloyd on the hot route behind the blitz (the one Lloyd may have gotten stripped out but wasn't reviewed) and we get a first down.
We get to the line quickly to avoid the replay and run straight ahead. As is often the case on those hurried plays, it goes nowhere. On second down Haarberg keeps on the option for 9 yards. On third down, Dowdell runs for no gain. Not good to run shotgun, slow-developing runs on short yardage so that's Satt's fault. On fourth down, Dowdell has the first down but fumbles.
That seemed like a fairly successful drive despite pretty poor execution.
Great call on first down. We saw the CB jump the short route on the previous possession so we run a double-move at him. Could have been a TD but the DB grabs on when he knows he's beaten. DPI.
First down, Raiola has a lot of time. He waits for the deep routes to develop, even though he could have dumped it short to an uncovered Fidone. He does check down to Fidone eventually - after he is pressured and almost sacked - but by then IU had a chance to react and Fidone is tackled as soon as he catches it.
We run four short routes on second down that are all covered. Raiola hits Dowdell on the check-down and Dowdell makes a nice move to get four yards. We run it on third-and-one and Dowdell gets a nice gain; could have been more if Neyor gets any sort of block on the CB that makes the tackle.
On first down we run a counter, pulling the G and TE. But Boerkircher blocks no one and the guy he should have blocked makes the tackle for no gain. On second down, we run a couple short routes to the right but not much is open. Raiola eventually spins out of pressure and resets but bounces it into Neyor. On third down, Raiola does a great job of hitting Lloyd on the hot route behind the blitz (the one Lloyd may have gotten stripped out but wasn't reviewed) and we get a first down.
We get to the line quickly to avoid the replay and run straight ahead. As is often the case on those hurried plays, it goes nowhere. On second down Haarberg keeps on the option for 9 yards. On third down, Dowdell runs for no gain. Not good to run shotgun, slow-developing runs on short yardage so that's Satt's fault. On fourth down, Dowdell has the first down but fumbles.
That seemed like a fairly successful drive despite pretty poor execution.
Mavric
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Yep. 18-22 year olds are notorious for never screwing up or making bad decisions.
admo
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Most Husker fans want to blame the coaches because they are player fans at heart. And they don't know how to solve something when plays by the players goes bad.
These players are getting paid now, for NIL. It's okay to put blame on poor tackling effort by defensive players, and not just blame DC Tony White. Same can be said for the offense. I mean, it's the players who play the game. They get the glory and adoration when the Huskers win. But the coaches get the blame for loses and ugly wins.
Having said that, I'm not saying Satt is perfect by any means with regard to the playbook and certain plays he runs or forgets to run in obvious situations.
The game against Indiana stunk on both sides of the ball. And the players might not have been in the best position to make plays. But ultimately, they played horrible collectively.
We are 5-2. Soon to be 5-3.
When you look at the goals at the beginning of the year, one was reached, with a few more left on the table to get.
Beat Colorado
6 reg season wins & Make a Bowl Game
Beat Iowa
Win a Bowl Game
But let's just Fire Satt and Rhule and Tony White. <_< They must be the only reason when players don't play well.
These players are getting paid now, for NIL. It's okay to put blame on poor tackling effort by defensive players, and not just blame DC Tony White. Same can be said for the offense. I mean, it's the players who play the game. They get the glory and adoration when the Huskers win. But the coaches get the blame for loses and ugly wins.
Having said that, I'm not saying Satt is perfect by any means with regard to the playbook and certain plays he runs or forgets to run in obvious situations.
The game against Indiana stunk on both sides of the ball. And the players might not have been in the best position to make plays. But ultimately, they played horrible collectively.
We are 5-2. Soon to be 5-3.
When you look at the goals at the beginning of the year, one was reached, with a few more left on the table to get.
Beat Colorado
6 reg season wins & Make a Bowl Game
Beat Iowa
Win a Bowl Game
But let's just Fire Satt and Rhule and Tony White. <_< They must be the only reason when players don't play well.
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gossamorharpy
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Yep- keep blaming kids for continually making bad decisions. Satt was gifted the top qb recruit in the nation and we still see the same inept execution we did with a horrible qb last year. Must not be the OCs fault at all
macroboy
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The cope for Satt is stunning.Yep- keep blaming kids for continually making bad decisions. Satt was gifted the top qb recruit in the nation and we still see the same inept execution we did with a horrible qb last year. Must not be the OCs fault at all
gossamorharpy
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Firing Rhule and white is a ridiculous take.
if our offense doesn’t show clear improvement by year end we would be foolish to keep satt around. We have too many talented players at our disposal to be this in effective and inconsistent. If 2 years isn’t enough runway then we truly are a has been progrum that will never be back on the national stage
Mavric
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Third possession, starts at our 25 after going down 14-0.
The broadcast missed the first part of the play but it was probably the same counter toss to Barney that we've seen several times. Good for five yards. Then inside zone to EJ for five more and a first down.
We then go tempo, play-action and get Lloyd on the drag for nine. Then EJ straight ahead for a yard and a first down.
The we go screen to EJ. Banks first completely wiffs on his block then comes back and gets a block-in-the-back penalty; 1st & 19. We run a counter, pulling both guards. But Mazzccua whiffs on the down block covering for the pulling guard and we get hit in the backfield. On second-and-long, Raiola has a ton of time and drops a dime to Fidone for a first down.
Raiola again has a ton of time and completes a deep out for another first down.
Next we run the ill-advised end around to Neyor. Not a great play, imo, but Banks and Boerkicher both block no one at the point of attack, so that's not helpful either. On 2nd & 17, we draw the DPI when the DB tackles Banks.
On 1st down, we hit Barney on the quick screen for six yards. Then Rahmir on inside zone for a first and goal.
We run Haarberg on the QB sweep but Fidone completely whiffs on the lead block. On second down Barney scores on the counter.
Overcame a couple of long yardage situations for the score.
The broadcast missed the first part of the play but it was probably the same counter toss to Barney that we've seen several times. Good for five yards. Then inside zone to EJ for five more and a first down.
We then go tempo, play-action and get Lloyd on the drag for nine. Then EJ straight ahead for a yard and a first down.
The we go screen to EJ. Banks first completely wiffs on his block then comes back and gets a block-in-the-back penalty; 1st & 19. We run a counter, pulling both guards. But Mazzccua whiffs on the down block covering for the pulling guard and we get hit in the backfield. On second-and-long, Raiola has a ton of time and drops a dime to Fidone for a first down.
Raiola again has a ton of time and completes a deep out for another first down.
Next we run the ill-advised end around to Neyor. Not a great play, imo, but Banks and Boerkicher both block no one at the point of attack, so that's not helpful either. On 2nd & 17, we draw the DPI when the DB tackles Banks.
On 1st down, we hit Barney on the quick screen for six yards. Then Rahmir on inside zone for a first and goal.
We run Haarberg on the QB sweep but Fidone completely whiffs on the lead block. On second down Barney scores on the counter.
Overcame a couple of long yardage situations for the score.