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Wistrom Disciple
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Agreed, 1000%. To not have a clear, upfront message about all this is astounding. I understand that his bosses are the university presidents and chancellors but to sit idle with nothing produced is a failure on all levels.
As a side note, I sincerely hope this political involvement will produce actual changes at many of these universities and their leadership structures in the future.
Alamo City Husker
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I agree, but Warren can't be any worse than what Governor Hot Wheels is doing down here in Texas, to the bars and clubs with his stale establishment political leadership. A lot of Texans mad pissed at that tree down here, they are saying it had one job. Bar and club owners are pissed that Jerry Jones and the Cowboys gets to open before bars that have been shut down almost 3/4 of the year. A "who you know", type of scenario. FWIW
I am I
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My stars as well
not good for him.
he is capitulating after Iowa, Nebraska, and other surrounding states are playing and doing just fine.
he’s feeling political pressure and is reversing course. That’s the reason. Not good for him, shame on him....also, he’s “allowing” 6500 fans into Mile High Stadium and has directions on which restrooms can be used. Polis, the California trust fund baby Gov, handing out our “rights” to us like an elitist can. Then changing course when the political winds blow
Deviation from football.... I am not a Polis fan, but I have given him credit when its due. Political pressure or not. All politicians bend to political pressure. He did visit Trump to try and get space force jobs in CO and took heat for it. He pushed for full time back to school (didn’t win yet). He even corrected the COVID death rate numbers and opened back up as early as any state short of the ones that never locked down. That said, I have not supported 90% percent of his policies. (I made up that % like everyone else does) I don’t throw a fit over mask mandates. Wearing them is just a courtesy, and when I forget no one says anything. I am glad he pushed CHSAA to change course....now he should push again to get the kids back in school full time. It’s working fine at the charter schools.
Huskers93-97
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I have a thought on those 2 points.
1. It could be that they don't have any good knowledge to stand behind their decision. It was shaky information and they don't want to release it because it is bulls#!t and they will get picked apart for using that information.
2. Politics. One view I think you are missing. Because when I say it is political I don't mean it has much to do with the election. What I mean and perhaps others could mean is just that the country is divided down the political lines as much now as ever before in our countries history. So many people make decisions- regardless of lacking common sense just for the purpose of "towing" their party lines beliefs. The democrat belief structure is that they like to portray they are smarter and safer than republicans. So if left leaning people in charge of those universities may be making a decision to be safer and smarter than everyone else because that is what the democratic narrative is. I don't think it has anything to do with the presidential election. More about the never ending war of Republican vs Democrat Ideologies.
knapplc
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I think this is the most likely thing, honestly.
People tend to forget that there are just bad managers out there. Bad managers make bad decisions based on faulty logic. It happens all the time.
This "they think they're smarter" caricature of Democrats or Liberals gets a lot of play in Republican media, but it's not reality any more than the caricature of every Conservative is a hillbilly. Clearly these are not real representations of those different ideologies, but they get perpetuated because it's an easy explanation.
But to give this idea some credence, don't we have to make the connection that the people saying no to football are all Democrats? So either the governor of the state is Democrat and trying to portray that they are smarter and safer than Republicans, or the college President/Chancellor is, right?
And then it gets muddier in states like Ohio and Iowa, where you have some FBS schools playing (Cincinnati, Iowa State) and some not (Ohio State, Iowa).
Does anyone know the political affiliations of the heads of all of these schools? Or is this based on speculation?
Danny Bateman
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Nope.
That entire thread is a gigantic mess of grievance-airing and half-baked bias confirmation.
Funny how the same speculation keeps creeping back in, likely from the same suspects... I wouldn't know, I haven't been keeping super close tabs on it.
But you know what they say...
I am I
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yeah man. I’m “on a ledge”.
You live in bubble and have no idea how precarious kids lives are without sports, school, education.
you have zero idea, apparently, of what 1 year away from mentors, teams, competition, structure, education, discipline, and organization does for at risk youth. Let alone well adjusted kids who, aren’t in school, hanging w friends, getting that first job, going to the movies, meeting a girl at homecoming, getting up in the morning on time etc.
we are allowing our youth to form bad habits. 7-10 months of bad habits absolutely can ruin kids’ future. If 40 states play high school football and 3 of the 5 conferences can...then it’s more than a bad look
there are literally hundreds of thousands of kids from Cherry Creek to Compton that have worked their asses off to play sports and be on a team. They NEED to play. My dad recruited kids that literally would be in prison or dead if it weren’t for that opportunity to play NAIA sports and get an education. Let alone D1 - D3 kids who need that opportunity.
look, they should’ve at least tried. If the other 3 conferences try and it has to close down, at least they tried.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29855356/rutgers-president-casts-president-trump-remarks-big-ten-play-cheap-politics
Yeah, it’s not political...it’s science they are following lol
“And even if it was a president that I was completely in love with that was doing this, I'd still think it would be cheap politics."
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FrantzHardySwag
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The politics on both sides are annoying as f#&%. Trump got involved because states who might vote for him were involved, he didn't give a s#!t about the west coast kids. And to the Rutgers President, spare me the Trump Bulls#!t, just do what's best for your kids. s#!t is unbearable at this point. We stopped using common sense, both sides are both out to screw each other.
P.s. Thankful for Frost, Moos, Carter, Green who have just shown fantastic communication and the kids interests in mind. Thanks for not brining up politics, securing testing and using your positions serve the student athletes - I know they appreciate it - and I as a fan appreciate it.
admo
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5 months ago (through August) I used to think the need was common sense, guidelines and health practices during a global pandemic affecting our country.
After all this time, I wonder if things are determined by a political (D) agenda. Just saying, where there's smoke, there's fire.
There is no way basketball is a go, lacrosse is happening, and football is cancelled (or on hold). Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania...that's huge political territory and a football landscape. Don't tell me it's not coincidence anymore. I'm really starting to think that if election was 2022, the big ten would have football today... like SEC, ACC, Big 12. (I'm sorry, but Pac 12 is totally (D) and we see they aren't playing either).
After all this time, I wonder if things are determined by a political (D) agenda. Just saying, where there's smoke, there's fire.
There is no way basketball is a go, lacrosse is happening, and football is cancelled (or on hold). Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania...that's huge political territory and a football landscape. Don't tell me it's not coincidence anymore. I'm really starting to think that if election was 2022, the big ten would have football today... like SEC, ACC, Big 12. (I'm sorry, but Pac 12 is totally (D) and we see they aren't playing either).
Wistrom Disciple
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He also got involved because Biden ran an Ad. Before that, I don't believe either candidate had said anything about the issue.
Agreed 1000% on the NU communications & team. I'd have to believe we are one of a few programs that has the entire lineup in sync.
FrantzHardySwag
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I thought the Biden ad was dumb too.
And yes, just cause Rutgers or Maryland doesn't have their poop in a group - doesn't mean a team like Nebraska should suffer. Dumb to lump everyone together at this point.
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