Tangent Thread - P&R Edition

[Wistrom Disciple]

The root cause of this is a political matter due to a vacuum of leadership. Where is that vacuum? It's in the governor's office. 

Again, here is one of the consequences for voting MAGA--you have idiots like Pillen that are too inept to lead and are purposely sabotaging the university.

Maybe instead of being hurt about the conversation, be hurt that we have inept leadership destroying one of the best things about this state and the athletic program that is tethered to it. 

Can we stop with the MAGA and politics in this thread? Take it to another forum.

Your first line is correct in that a lack of leadership is certainly playing a factor. Obviously, us outsiders don't have a good pulse on just how impactful that is for Trev or the rest of the University. 

So we think Regents and Interim President and Vice President are in damage control to try and keep him? 

Yes, absolutely. They've been dragging their feet for too long and it is not helping the University move forward. 

 

[VectorVictor]

My understanding is that the political side of this plays a much smaller role than the education side. 

I think your point is not entirely wrong, but it is 100% going to get moved out of this thread because of how you're making it in the Football Forum. Agree or disagree, this is not the place or the way to have this conversation.

Except that it is. Elections have consequences, and just because certain fans are getting butthurt about the reality of their decisions biting them in the arse, that doesn't make it any less real or relevant. 

We know that the move to put more power in the Regents hands and take it out of the AD's office did not sit well, and that was done to appease the Governor and Ricketts. 

We know that key positions remain unfilled at the University, and the Governor and the Regents have the ability to resolve those gaps, but have consciously chosen not to because it weakens the University as a whole. 

Elections have consequences. 

 

[Lorewarn]

Maybe instead of being hurt about the conversation, be hurt that we have inept leadership destroying one of the best things about this state and the athletic program that is tethered to it. 

I'm not hurt. I share your opinion. I'm simply letting you know that the root cause of the situation does not suddenly negate board rules and what parts of this are and aren't appropriate in this thread.

 

[HuskerNation1]

Except that it is. Elections have consequences, and just because certain fans are getting butthurt about the reality of their decisions biting them in the arse, that doesn't make it any less real or relevant. 

We know that the move to put more power in the Regents hands and take it out of the AD's office did not sit well, and that was done to appease the Governor and Ricketts. 

We know that key positions remain unfilled at the University, and the Governor and the Regents have the ability to resolve those gaps, but have consciously chosen not to because it weakens the University as a whole. 

Elections have consequences. 

Enough with the political commentary.  Most believe both sides of the political spectrum are a mess right now, but organizational politics is different than American politics.  You are trying to equate the two in a very immature manner.  

 

[Decoy73]

My understanding is that the political side of this plays a much smaller role than the education side. 

I think your point is not entirely wrong, but it is 100% going to get moved out of this thread because of how you're making it in the Football Forum. Agree or disagree, this is not the place or the way to have this conversation.

Please share why you believe this is less about politics.  Until more is known, moving it out of this thread is inappropriate, IMO.  Unless, of course, in the future we're also going to move the stupid game day "let us pray" thread or anything else that breathes P or R into the P&R section too.   There's overlap with P&R with sports and that's okay.  Or at least it should be.  People just need to let discussions happen.

 

[Hilltop]

Hoping we don't start chopping this thread up so we don't offend someone...  I tend to disagree with some of the takes, specifically by VV, but I definitely don't mind the conversation.  I think that is part of the problem we have on both sides of politics, and many other issues.  90% of America has forgotten how to discuss things without taking a personal offense to it.    

 

[Lorewarn]

Hoping we don't start chopping this thread up so we don't offend someone...  I tend to disagree with some of the takes, specifically by VV, but I definitely don't mind the conversation.  I think that is part of the problem we have on both sides of politics, and many other issues.  90% of America has forgotten how to discuss things without taking a personal offense to it.    

There has been zero personal offense taken, and the thread will be chopped due to very clear and not difficult rules, not because we've "forgotten how to discuss things".

 

[Loe Doesnt Know]

Hoping we don't start chopping this thread up so we don't offend someone...  I tend to disagree with some of the takes, specifically by VV, but I definitely don't mind the conversation.  I think that is part of the problem we have on both sides of politics, and many other issues.  90% of America has forgotten how to discuss things without taking a personal offense to it.    

Truth.. and I agree... Don't chop the thread because it might be perceived offensive.

 

[Gage County]

Truth.. and I agree... Don't chop the thread because it might be perceived offensive.

Probably help if (royal) you don't call everyone an idiot.

 

[ECisGod]

Probably help if (royal) you don't call everyone an idiot.

But everyone is an idiot (me included).

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

Same thing happened when COVID politics entered the Will There Be a 2020 Football Season thread. It got heated and it got partisan, but there was no way around it given the subject, which remained Nebraska Football. Interesting discussions, too.

Sometimes there's genuine overlap and you might as well let it roll, especially if the very future of Husker football turns out to be mired in politics. 

The readers who avoid the P&R forum can just as easily ignore this one thread. 

 

[ZRod]

The readers who avoid the P&R forum can just as easily ignore this one thread. 

No they can't. It hurts them!

 

[Ratt Mhule]

So the ? I have. Are the regents trying to downgrade the importance of athletics at NU in a quest to be known as an academic institution?  What is the political issue?

Look up the republican/maga platform on public education and you will have your answer. 

 

[HuskerNation1]

Look up the republican/maga platform on public education and you will have your answer. 

So the #1 QB select Nebraska selected Nebraska because it's a Republican University.  Lol.  

 

[ZRod]

So the #1 QB select Nebraska selected Nebraska because it's a Republican University.  Lol.  

No idea how you got that from his post. It's that they don't value higher education. A symptom of a greater problem, which is lack of investment and support for public schools in general.