The Democrat Utopia

Guy Chamberlin said:
That's APSU, who has yet to explain his journey from Green Party to Red State.

Defender AO is the guy who drops into P&R only in gloatable moments, and has never pretended his rightwing Christian hot takes were anything else.  
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If I were gloating I could've ducked in often when the extreme leftists / transgenders went on a few shooting sprees :( .  Those people, and events, are so despicable and  sad they needed no commentary.  

Seeing sorority girls melt down because drunken orgies need to be tempered because they might have a difficult time finding a doc that will terminate the miracle of life, and P Diddy's Hollywood crew telling us how Kamala is the choice of champions; grateful there's disruption to the radical left agenda.  

Looks like even Californians got tired of it where conservatism made ground outside of the coastal areas.  Legal immigration, protect children in and out of the womb, denounce equal equity principles, keep boys out of girls sports and locker rooms.  Very reasonable takes...

 
teachercd said:
Okay, so it is clear that you did not get a bid to a frat.

It is also clear that you dislike women and/or think very little of them.

Also, it is clear that you have no idea what frat parties look like but is is also clear that you have watched a lot of Cinemax After Dark movies back in the day...Me too!  Turns out those were not documentaries.  

f#&%ing is okay, f#&%ing people that you don't plan to spend the rest of your life with is okay.  Abortion is hardly used as birth control, it is used as a last resort for most people.  

I am guessing you are a guy, would you like it if I could choose if you had to have your nuts snipped?  Of course not. 
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I dig the humor. :)  The bold is where you and I mostly diverge. I agree that when MOST people decide to use abortion it IS a last resort, but while I can't support my feelings with a metric, I do think more people than I'm comfortable with DO use it as birth control and because its an option, some aren't as careful to not cause a pregnancy than they otherwise might. 

 
hskrpwr13 said:
I dig the humor. :)  The bold is where you and I mostly diverge. I agree that when MOST people decide to use abortion it IS a last resort, but while I can't support my feelings with a metric, I do think more people than I'm comfortable with DO use it as birth control and because its an option, some aren't as careful to not cause a pregnancy than they otherwise might. 
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That is great but your level of comfort doesn't matter.  Neither does mine.

 
DefenderAO said:
If I were gloating I could've ducked in often when the extreme leftists / transgenders went on a few shooting sprees :( .  
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Well that's in fact what you did, managing to stay away when the 99.9% of non-transgender shooting sprees were occurring.

Reducing the abortion debate to drunken sorority girl orgies is definitely on-brand for you. 

 
nic said:
Not sure what this is...I guess liberal women are pissed off.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/09/us/4b-movement-trump-south-korea-wellness-cec/index.html

"4B is a shorthand for the four Korean words bihon, bichulsan, biyeonae and bisekseu, which translate to no marriage, no childbirth, no dating and no sex with men."

This is sad to hear....

https://www.foxnews.com/media/young-adults-say-race-climate-fears-prevent-them-from-starting-families-shameful-want-have-children

I guess conservatives will be populating the country going forward.
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I remember the "who would bring kids into this dangerous world?" mantra from the 1960s, but we managed to add five billion people since then. 

It will largely be poor people populating the country going forward, as is often the case. 

 
hskrpwr13 said:
I agree that when MOST people decide to use abortion it IS a last resort, but while I can't support my feelings with a metric, I do think more people than I'm comfortable with DO use it as birth control and because its an option, some aren't as careful to not cause a pregnancy than they otherwise might. 
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As long as you freely admit that this is how you feel and isn't supported by anything.

Here's the numbers for you. About half of pregnancies are unintended ones. About half of those end up in abortions. More than half of those aborted pregnancies happened despite the woman using contraceptives, so at the absolute highest amount, that's less than 1/8 women could be considered to be using abortion as birth control. The real number is impossible to know, but surely lower than that when you actually factor for the myriad other considerations and reasoning for someone in that scenario.

 
Lorewarn said:
As long as you freely admit that this is how you feel and isn't supported by anything.

Here's the numbers for you. About half of pregnancies are unintended ones. About half of those end up in abortions. More than half of those aborted pregnancies happened despite the woman using contraceptives, so at the absolute highest amount, that's less than 1/8 women could be considered to be using abortion as birth control. The real number is impossible to know, but surely lower than that when you actually factor for the myriad other considerations and reasoning for someone in that scenario.
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Your numbers may very well be true, but irony isn’t lost on me when you chastise his/her post for not being supported by evidence and then you go ahead and try to refute his post by……….throwing out numbers with no corresponding sourcing evidence.  

 
The idea that some women casually use an invasive medical procedure as birth control is weird. This is a vanishingly small percentage of women. 
 

People want abortion like people want chemo. It's an awful thing that is sometimes necessary. 

Abortion needs to be legal, safe, and rare. When you make abortion illegal, women still have to have abortions. Making abortion illegal just kills women. 

 
Archy1221 said:
Your numbers may very well be true, but irony isn’t lost on me when you chastise his/her post for not being supported by evidence and then you go ahead and try to refute his post by……….throwing out numbers with no corresponding sourcing evidence.  
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If they're interested in informing their opinion with more than just their feelings, they'll have plenty of internal motivation to look it up for themselves. To anyone interested, by all means, don't take my word for it; google is very easy to use.

If they would rather stick to their feelings instead of facts, I don't see any need to waste any more of my time. 

 
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Lorewarn said:
If they're interested in informing their opinion with more than just their feelings, they'll have plenty of internal motivation to look it up for themselves. To anyone interested, by all means, don't take my word for it; google is very easy to use.

If they would rather stick to their feelings instead of facts, I don't see any need to waste any more of my time. 
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Your #'s are not even close to accurate.  

 
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